I'm sure there is, but I would have to say that machine platform would play a 
major factor for infection along with user.  
  If we're talking 10,000 windows home users without A/V, VS. 10,000 Windows 
home users with AV, I'd say for certain that those without are more likely to 
become infected.  Would be interesting to see a formal study on this though....

  For *nix platforms there is a greater chance of having a file that is 
infected stored on it waiting for a vulnerable box to grab it and run it than 
the *nix box itself getting infected.

Mike B

Michael P. Blanchard 
Senior Security Engineer, CISSP, GCIH, CCSA-NGX, MCSE
Office of Information Security & Risk Management 
EMC ² Corporation 
4400 Computer Dr. 
Westboro, MA 01580 
email:  [email protected] 

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Kaminsky [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 1:56 PM
To: Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec)
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [funsec] No AV? Shock, horror!

Non-rhetorical question:

Is there a source of data showing 10,000 machines with AV are less
likely to be infected than 10,000 machines without?


On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 7:38 PM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
> There are plenty of AV products for *nix platforms.  It's not that there is a 
> *huge* amount of viruses for those platforms, it's that those platforms are 
> often accessed by Windows platforms and the merchant should want to provide a 
> clean file to a customer...
>
>  Mike B
>
>
> Michael P. Blanchard
> Senior Security Engineer, CISSP, GCIH, CCSA-NGX, MCSE
> Office of Information Security & Risk Management
> EMC ² Corporation
> 4400 Computer Dr.
> Westboro, MA 01580
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Drsolly
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 5:13 PM
> To: Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [funsec] No AV? Shock, horror!
>
> Maybe some merchants don't use Windows?
>
> On Fri, 25 Sep 2009, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah wrote:
>
>> PCI survey finds some merchants don't use antivirus software
>>
>> http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/092309-pci-survey-finds-some-
>> merchants.html?hpg1=bn
>>
>> (But absolutely no surprise whatsoever ...)
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