All logs from a central AV-management console listing what has been detected by 
the OnAccess scanner on the workstations would qualify as that source of data 
(after sorting out the things that actually infect a machine from the things AV 
is expected to detect nowadays in addition). Without AV most entries in that 
log would have resulted in an infected machine...


cheers,
Toralv


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dan Kaminsky
> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 7:56 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [funsec] No AV? Shock, horror!
>
> Non-rhetorical question:
>
> Is there a source of data showing 10,000 machines with AV are
> less likely to be infected than 10,000 machines without?
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 7:38 PM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
> > There are plenty of AV products for *nix platforms.  It's
> not that there is a *huge* amount of viruses for those
> platforms, it's that those platforms are often accessed by
> Windows platforms and the merchant should want to provide a
> clean file to a customer...
> >
> >  Mike B
> >
> >
> > Michael P. Blanchard
> > Senior Security Engineer, CISSP, GCIH, CCSA-NGX, MCSE Office of
> > Information Security & Risk Management EMC ² Corporation
> 4400 Computer
> > Dr.
> > Westboro, MA 01580
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]]
> > On Behalf Of Drsolly
> > Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 5:13 PM
> > To: Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah
> > Cc: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [funsec] No AV? Shock, horror!
> >
> > Maybe some merchants don't use Windows?
> >
> > On Fri, 25 Sep 2009, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon &
> Hannah wrote:
> >
> >> PCI survey finds some merchants don't use antivirus software
> >>
> >> http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/092309-pci-survey-finds-some-
> >> merchants.html?hpg1=bn
> >>
> >> (But absolutely no surprise whatsoever ...)
> >>
> >> ======================  (quote inserted randomly by
> Pegasus Mailer)
> >> [email protected]     [email protected]
> >> [email protected]
> >>              Living well is the best revenge.
> >>                       George Herbert, 16th century English
> clergyman
> >> http://victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm
> >> http://blog.isc2.org/isc2_blog/slade/index.html
> >> http://twitter.com/rslade
> >> http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/
> >> http://twitter.com/NoticeBored
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