On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:37:44 -0800 (PST), [email protected] wrote:

>
>One of the problems with identifying and attributing cyber attacks against 
>things like grids is that there are so many other things that could have gone 
>wrong.  If there was a desire to downplay the incident (for which the 
>motivation is very high) it is trivial to deliver an alternate story.
>
>Does this mean the Brazilian alternative story is a cover up?  Probably not, 
>but almost no one (not even the utility employees) would be able to gainsay it 
>if it was.  

You're implying the Brazilian utility story may be a cover-up and that
the motivation to do so was very high. And further, not even the
participants in this alleged cover-up would be able to deny it was
one. Interesting.

>The point remains: control systems (not just grid systems, but everywhere) are 
>extremely unprepared for cyber attack.  The amount of effort applied to cyber 
>security as a percentage of resources applied to these systems is virtually 
>unmeasurably small, and where there has been any at all it is almost always a 
>one-off custom engagement.  Control system networks make the IT networks we 
>all complain about look like Fort Knox. 

Not true for electric utilities. They're spending fortunes on NERC
CIP. Electric utilities understand FERC/NERC are really just getting
started. The smart grid ("from the toaster to the generator") cyber
security standards will make NERC CIP look small.

>We need to regularize our approach to CIP cybersecurity or we aren't going to 
>make any headway at all.

I disagree.

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Ned


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