Wow, I could only imagine the pure RAGE I'd feel if that were my child.  Or 
even if I found out that my child had one of these laptops and the school 
officials were tuning in for the nightly show....  Wow, I sure hope that our 
justice system doesn't fail us this time and that the school officials wind up 
in "F8ck them in the ass prison"....   


Michael P. Blanchard 
Senior Security Engineer, CISSP, GCIH, CCSA-NGX, MCSE
Office of Information Security & Risk Management 
EMC ² Corporation 
4400 Computer Dr. 
Westboro, MA 01580 


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Dave Paris
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 5:35 PM
To: funsec
Subject: Re: [funsec] big brother at school

'In loco parentis', when the child is *in* the home, is gonna hold water 
like a sieve.  Apparently this is a fairly well-off school district 
which can afford to give every one of their 1800 high-schoolers a 
laptop.  The school district is going to be a smoldering hole when this 
suit is done and that Vice Principal won't be able to find his ass with 
both hands, a flashlight, a map, *and* GPS unit. (although I suspect 
this person is already of sufficiently challenged thought process where 
this may already be the case).

Benjamin Brown wrote:
> Just something to chew on: A number of court decisions (press me harder and
> I can search for the titles) rule in favor of the administration of public
> schools in cases that would have otherwise been seen a pure violation of a
> student's rights. These cases often invoke an argument of *In loco
> parentis*for the administration. Though in every case I have read the
> rulings
> concerned actions taken on school grounds or within close proximity. This
> case involves school property (the laptop), but occurs at the students home.
> I am curious how this shakes out and what the court ruling (and inevitable
> appeal ruling) will say.
> 
> My 2 dinars  =)
> -Ben
> 
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon &
> Hannah <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Date sent:              Thu, 18 Feb 2010 10:28:13 -0600
>> From:                   RandallM <[email protected]>
>>
>>> http://www.boingboing.net/2010/02/17/school-used-student.html
>> and
>>
>> http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/02/18/24789.htm
>>
>> "A federal class action claims a suburban school district has been spying
>> on
>> students and families through the "indiscriminant use of and ability to
>> remotely
>> activate the webcams incorporated into each laptop issued to students,"
>> without
>> the knowledge or consent of students or parents. The named plaintiffs say
>> they
>> learned that Big Brother was in their home when an assistant principal told
>> their
>> son that the school district knew he `was engaged in improper behavior in
>> his
>> home, and cited as evidence a photograph from the webcam embedded in minor
>> plaintiff's personal laptop issued by the school district.'"
>>
>> Always possible that the allegations are wrong or overstated, but, on the
>> face of it,
>> sounds like this school district could be in very serious trouble ...
>>
>> (Cue comments about protecting children, and being willing to give up
>> personal
>> freedoms for a worthy cause, etc ... )
>>
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