Throwing gasoline on a blazing fire, eh? ;-) - ferg
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Steve Pirk <pirks...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think IT workers need to unionize </ducks> :-) > > On Nov 24, 2012 12:56 PM, "Paul Ferguson" <fergdawgs...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Forgot to copy the list... >> >> - ferg >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Paul Ferguson <fergdawgs...@gmail.com> >> Date: Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 12:49 PM >> Subject: Re: [funsec] "Skills gap"? >> To: Dirt Nap <dirt...@gmail.com> >> >> >> Well, I can't speak to every situation, of course, but I'm finding it >> quite hard to fill open jobs. And it's not really a matter of salary, >> but I *do* find it somewhat troublesome that anyone who has worked in >> Infosec for any significant amount of time expects a "rock star" >> salary... Having said that, I am happy to pay people above "entry >> level", but let's be for real here. :-) >> >> - ferg >> >> p.s. I am hiring. :-) >> >> On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Dirt Nap <dirt...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > The problem I find in my area is when it comes to info sec jobs they >> > have a >> > certain level of expectations. For example they expect someone who has >> > worked info sec for 10 years to accept a salary that is to say the least >> > entry level. When you try to negotiate with them to bump the salary up >> > they >> > refuse. The position doesn't get filled, or if it does it becomes open >> > after 90 days because the person seeks employment elsewhere. >> > >> > On Nov 24, 2012 2:48 PM, "Paul Ferguson" <fergdawgs...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> B.S. >> >> >> >> >> >> There *are* significant "wage increases, at least in Infosec. >> >> >> >> - ferg >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & >> >> Hannah <rmsl...@shaw.ca> wrote: >> >> >> >> > I see a lot of companies complaining that they can't get >> >> > skilled/trained >> >> > infosec >> >> > people. >> >> > >> >> > I see a lot of experienced infosec people out of work. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/25/magazine/skills-dont-pay-the-bills.html >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson >> >> fergdawgster(at)gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. >> >> https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec >> >> Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. >> >> >> >> -- >> "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson >> fergdawgster(at)gmail.com >> >> >> -- >> "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson >> fergdawgster(at)gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. >> https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec >> Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson fergdawgster(at)gmail.com _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
