Define "skills". There are plenty of jobs out there, but I live in
Central IL and don't want to relocate. That pretty much takes most all
of them off the table for me.
That said, I've been helping write/audit SANS certifications for
awhile. I'm simply ineligible to take them (for what should be obvious
reasons). I got real tired of submitting resumes and being told I need
a GSEC/GCIH/et al. I'd respond with I wrote part of the question bank
and some HR bean counter just didn't get it and insisted I needed the
paper. I ended up taking the CISSP cold one weekend just to have
something and even then I got tired of paying the annual ransom for
letters that meant nothing.
j
On 11/24/12 6:44 PM, Kyle Creyts wrote:
I know a lot of people who recently joined the workforce in IT and
infosec, and I know few enough who are happy or satisfied with their
pay; part of the problem is the way paragon status has been conferred
upon those with a trivial set of skills, a good break with the press,
and sense of opportunism.
The role models for some of the younger entrants are very successful,
but not very humble. Many have come to expect higher wages for some of
these skills, with "possession of skills and experience" being defined
by the individual and their evaluator rather than the industry as a
whole, or even a majority. I am not defining a skillset when I say
"skills in pen-testing" or "skills in data forensics" or "firewall
management experience," though it would seem many people believe that
these words seem to embody such a skillset.
It would seem that some standards (I know, it seems hard to keep
standards current with the rapid evolution of knowledge in our field)
would greatly aid in giving these people proper perspective. Knowing
more about something than anyone you know doesn't necessarily make you
an expert.
As an industry, we lack some authoritative reference points to help
individuals understand where they stand in knowledge and experience.
Admittedly, we work in a field where young authority seems somewhat
commonplace. Perhaps this influences the perception of those new to
the workforce, or even those who have been around a while?
But who am I to comment? I'm just another young guy, recently having
entered the workforce...
On Nov 24, 2012 9:59 AM, "Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon &
Hannah" <rmsl...@shaw.ca <mailto:rmsl...@shaw.ca>> wrote:
I see a lot of companies complaining that they can't get
skilled/trained infosec
people.
I see a lot of experienced infosec people out of work.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/25/magazine/skills-dont-pay-the-bills.html
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