Bill Wheatley
Director of Development
AEPS INC
Allaire ColdFusion Consulting Partner
http://www.aeps.com
ICQ: 417645
http://www.aeps2000.com
954-472-6684 X303

----- Original Message -----
From: "William J Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: Fusebox.org BAD NEWS.... READ THIS


> thats a good idea, its regular law too
> if someone builds a fence on your land and they take care of it for a 5-10
> years (rough guess on the issues) and show they are taking care of the
land
> and the fence then the LAND is legally theres.
>
>
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> Bill Wheatley
> Director of Development
> AEPS INC
> Allaire ColdFusion Consulting Partner
> http://www.aeps.com
> ICQ: 417645
> http://www.aeps2000.com
> 954-472-6684 X303
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan Haley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Fusebox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 3:31 PM
> Subject: RE: Fusebox.org BAD NEWS.... READ THIS
>
>
> > Wouldn't you also have some legal grounds to stand on considering they
> knew
> > about fusebox.org for some time and yet did nothing to dissuade you from
> > building a following?  I, of course, am not a lawyer, and don't play one
> on
> > TV, so that is just a guess.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 12:32 PM
> > To: Fusebox
> > Subject: Re: Fusebox.org BAD NEWS.... READ THIS
> >
> >
> > I saw someone from them on a panel I was on a few weeks back and they
> didn't
> > seem to have any problem then. If they do 'bitch' about it, we've got
> > numbers, events, and published material to back us up. As Fusebox.org is
> not
> > a profit center, they can not claim dilution of trademark on the
> consulting
> > front. I'm quite sure that the Fusebox methodology has been around
before
> > theirs has and we've got a print book already out on it. Finally,
they're
> > ColdFusion users. If we simply explain nicely that its in their best
> > interest to work WITH Fusebox.org rather than against it, it can save
them
> > on a LOT of negative publicity. Having a chunk of the CF world against
> then
> > because they are wining about something that hasn't been an issue in the
> > past is really bad for business.
> >
> >
> > > Everyone, listen up...  we've got an issue at hand with Fusebox.org
that
> > > I do not know how to handle, so I am asking for everyone's wisdom.
> > >
> > > I just received a rather negative call from Fusebox.COM (note the
.com)
> > > saying that we as fusebox.org are stepping on their brand name.  Here
> > > are their issues:
> > >
> > > 1. They are a web development consulting company, they do everything
> > > from graphics to programming (including CF)
> > > 2. They have owned the trademark to "Fusebox" since 1995
> > > 3. They are about to go on a big marketing push and are concerned that
> > > people will confuse fusebox.com with .org
> > > 4. They claim to have a development methodology for building web
sites.
> > > http://www.fusebox.com/fb_pages1/main2.cfm?s=services&c=services
> > > (note, they have left out testing) ;)
> > >
> > > I responded with these points:
> > >
> > > 1. We are a free organization that anyone can belong to, and have been
> > > around since 1998
> > > 2. We do not directly make any money.  Everything is donated.  Thus we
> > > couldn't directly take money away from them
> > > 3. We did not put up fusebox.org to try and draw people away from
> > > fusebox.com, that has never
> > > been our intention and never will be
> > > 4. We have over 1800 people that are active users in our process, many
> > > of which whom have built
> > > their business plans around these ideas, changing the name would
> > > directly affect those companies.
> > >
> > > Nothing has been resolved yet, I would like to hear as many people's
> > > opinions and suggestions on this as possible.  All I know is that I'm
> > > ready and willing to fight this all the way to the end.
> > >
> > > Why?  Because of this quote I just got through ICQ WHILE i was writing
> > > this email (no kidding)
> > >
> > > "Just have to tell you that Fusebox is making my life so much easier.
> > > Just finished a small project in 8 hours. Something that would have
> > > taken me 20 - 30 hours 2 months ago." - Michael Slatoff
> > >
> > > Let's talk about this, and see if we can come up with something to
offer
> > > them.
> > >
> > > Steve Nelson
> > > http://www.SecretAgents.com
> > > Tools for Fusebox Developers
> >
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