That's right, The worst problem that I'm always struggling with, is that I
can't IMAGINE the software in my mind even(What that probably is so easier
to use that very-english-like languages).
-Amir
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Peters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 6:55 PM
To: Fusebox
Subject: RE: Fwd: extreme programming
I don't put much stock in AI (having researched in it a few years back), but
I
do use what I call meta-code (code that writes code) quite a lot. That's
the
whole idea behind tools like my Fuseminder, Adam Churvis' CommerceBlocks,
and
other efforts such as Steve is talking about.
Let's face it, programmers write higher level code every year. Application
programmers haven't written in assembler for quite a while now (with a few
notable exceptions like Steve Gibson...). The key is creating great design
tools that allow us to create great code. That last bit is the hard part--
there's still enough art in programming to make "code robots" a very
difficult
prospect.
- Jeff
On 6 Apr 2001, at 14:40, Stephen Fernandez wrote:
> why not cut out the programmers altogether...
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/18151.html
> (an article about ai writing code for you.)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 05 April 2001 04:17
> To: Fusebox
> Subject: Re: Fwd: extreme programming
>
>
> i want to take your 2 month development time down to 1-2 days (after the
> specification is complete). This would be done by having anywhere from
> 1-100 Fusecoders on the project. According to the mythical man month,
> this isn't possible because adding manpower to a project won't speed up
> development. Common sense tells me that it's because no has figured out
> how to linearly manage people.
>
> Think about this... If an olympic sprinter could run their sprinting
> speed for a mile the world record would be under 3 minutes.
>
> The reason this hasn't been done is that the human body can't pump
> enough blood and suck in enough air. BUT! If the human body was
> redesigned to solve those problems, the 3 minute mile could be possible.
>
> I'm about halfway through this book for the second time and I'm
> realizing that almost all of these problems Mr. Brooks has come across
> could potentially be solved with a handful of very sophisticated project
> management tools and a standardized methodology which we have already
> developed.
>
> Steve
>
> "Janty.com" wrote:
> >
> > Well, like I said .. adding a little exthreme programming along with a
lot
> > of Fusebox, decreased our production time from 6 months of sloppy,
barely
> > stitched together code, to 2 months of good solid stuff :) I think you
> > won't have any trouble disproving it, in the web dev comunity at least
:)
> >
> > Todd
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Steve Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Fusebox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 10:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: Fwd: extreme programming
> >
> > > The reason I've been studying extreme programming is my latest goal in
> > > life is to disprove the mythical man month. The mythical man month is
a
> > > book that was written back in 1974 that explains that adding more
> > > manpower to a project does not linearly make the project go faster.
> > >
> > > I think with the combination of the concepts we've all come up with in
> > > this Fusebox community and the ideas the extreme programming community
> > > has come up with along with a handful of management tools, I think it
> > > could be possible to break free of the mythical man month.
> > >
> > > Steve Nelson
> > > Try my CFML code tester for free!
> > > http://www.secretagents.com/tools/stomp/
> > > (804) 825-6093
> >
> >
>
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