Guys/Gals !!!
Let's move on please !!! Agree to Disagree !! :))
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Kuryk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 2:30 PM
To: Fusebox
Subject: RE: Microsoft - Why is everyone so hate hate?
Since ASP works so well why are you in a coldfusion newsgroup?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 1:05 PM
> To: Fusebox
> Subject: RE: Microsoft - Why is everyone so hate hate?
>
>
> I think you are bitter and just jealous that they make money. IIS has
> been consistently rated the FASTEST of all available Web servers.
>
> Microsoft is not perfect but their tools work, they save time and are
> the most powerful on the market (ASP Excluded). There is absolutely no
> OS that is 100% reliable and secure.
>
> Your bottom line is you like FREE. Do you work fro free? If so you
> haven't gotten it yet. If you don't why would you expect others to do
> it?
>
> Jim Nitterauer
> President
> Creative Data Concepts Limited, Inc.
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Philip Isaacs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 8:56 AM
> To: Fusebox
> Subject: RE: Microsoft - Why is everyone so hate hate?
>
>
> First off, you have to be kidding if you think I'm supposed
> to feel bad
> for Microsoft? I'm sorry but how could I. They bully competitors, over
> charge for their products, offer terrible support for their
> crap, and on
> top of that they are smug about it.
>
> Second, as a professional web developer for some time now, I have
> examined many of Microsoft's products, and I would like to official
> weight in with my opinion.
>
> I think Microsoft products suck. Their OS is crap. Their
> database tools
> are horrible. (SQL Server is a waste of money), their
> development tools
> are horrible (VSS stinks), and their web server (IIS) is slow and full
> of security holes. In fact word is HotMail was hacked yet again
> yesterday. How many times is that now? My company had to
> virtually shut
> down last week because of yet another worm that found its way into out
> system.
>
> I will say that I thought IE was a good browser until the crap they
> pulled this week, with "opps -- we accidentally took out Netscape
> Plugins. Sorry, no more quicktime". So now I switched back to using
> Netscape again. Screw that. I love Quicktime.
>
> The truth is I have been forced into using these products.
> But they are
> not my choice.
>
> At work I use MS because its the company I work for's
> decision to do so.
> But at home I run Red Hat Linux. Because I like having choices. I also
> love, love, love the fact that its free. So while others go out and
> spend money on software, I'm happily saving mine, and still getting a
> rock solid, fast, powerful OS. And that goes for virtual all the
> software available for it. Apace, MySQL, PHP, SAMBA, CVS, JAVA and
> thousands of other tools.
>
> Go ahead give your money to Microsoft.
> They certainly act like they appreciate it. Just look how they treat
> people.
>
> "The greatest power we have as an individual, is with out pocketbooks"
>
> What do others think?
>
> P.Isaacs
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 9:26 AM
> To: Fusebox
> Subject: RE: Microsoft - Why is everyone so hate hate?
>
>
> I like Microsoft's products...I think some of their business
> ploys are a
> little dirty but hey...It's business. We could turn this into a real
> philosophical debate but cmon...the only difference we can make as a
> consumer is watchout for our best interests.
>
> I will say though that Win2k was their first operating system.
> Everything before that was crap. I did tech support for 2
> years and sys
> admin for 3. Don't even get me started on win95/98. ;-)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neil Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 4:18 AM
> To: Fusebox
> Subject: Microsoft - Why is everyone so hate hate?
>
>
> (deep breath)
>
> Why is everyone do agro agro about Microsoft? What do the majority of
> you guys use?! I would assume Windows. MS do what they need to do to
> survive in still a very competitive market. Anyone can make software
> with correct knowledge and tools - its not as if they are countries
> using their power to corrupt other nations is it? <cough cough> ring a
> bell?
>
> Jeez, look at Apple - they release an already 2 years late OS
> which you
> would have to re-purchase all your software for anyway?! erm
> and thats
> not underhand? Apple are in teh position they are in for one reason,
> they didn't license the OS rights - nail in the coffin right there. Oh
> and it doesn't work well - something Windows does, despire
> the hear 'say
> - Windows 95/98 I will give you, they were pants, but NT, 2K
> are pretty
> stable - I have never had to reboot a server in anger.
>
> I suggest you guys take the time out to realise just how much work was
> put into making the MS business and maybe take some time out from your
> bitchin to read Randell E. Stross's book - The Microsoft Way; it is a
> fair expose of the man and the company - I think it will open a lot of
> eyes.
>
> Maybe the QT thing was deliberate, maybe it wasn't - but
> there will be a
> resolution.
>
> "Open Your minds, be formless."
>
> Neil
>
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