I know John Beynon is responsible for talking with the kind Fusetalk
folks and I think he's spearheading the effort. John, jump in here and
give us an update.

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 1:14 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Forum Suggestion & Topica Comments


Hal,
Thanks for the honest response and witty sarcasm.  I think I may have 
missed something within all 40+ of the "Re: Forum Suggestion" posts, but

my topica account had somehow become disabled.  Fortunately, as of a few

hours ago, my Topica priveleges have been reinstated.

FuseTalk will definetely work out well.  Anandtech has been using it 
with great success for quite some time.  I will be anxiously awaiting 
its debut.  Will there be an effort to convert the thousands of posts on

Topica into a publicly accessible and, most importantly, easily 
searchable system?  Of the couple thousand posts I've had time to read 
over, the information contained in fusebox@topica is an invaluable 
resource that would be a crime to lose.

In any case, I would like to thank all those devoting what little free 
time they have to getting us all onto a better system.

-Frank





hal helms wrote:
> You're not at all out of line, Frank. Sometimes decisions get made as 
> the path of least resistance and it takes a crisis to jolt us all out 
> of our ingrained habits. I think the Fusetalk solution will be an 
> exceptionally good one, as it allows people to use forums, emails, or 
> news groups to access the same info. It will probably take us 4-6 
> weeks to implement it as we're using volunteers who, though generously

> donating their time, do have full time jobs. Some, I'm told, even have

> lives, although this is unsubstantiated.
> 
> In short, you're absolutely right.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 6:14 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Forum Suggestion & Topica Comments
> 
> 
> I was wondering why I wasn't getting any emails from the Fusebox list,
> so I logged on to the topica site to try to post.  I hit the "Post" 
> button and an error "You have been disabled by the owner of this list"

> came up.  I can obviously just change email addresses, but I would
like 
> to know whats going on.  Given this latest issue, in a long string of 
> problems with Topica, I have decided to post my thoughts.
> 
> I really hope some of the Fusebox leaders are reading the "Forum
> Suggestion" thread.  Out of the dozens of forum systems that I've used

> as both a user and admin, I think Topica's system is one of the least 
> useful.  Its nearly impossible to search past threads for information 
> and current threads are even hard to keep track of given that each 
> response is listed separately.  I'm sure there are plenty of superior 
> alternatives, but I particular like 
> 
> vBulletin: http://www.vbulletin.com/
> InfoPop's Ultimate Bulletin Board:
> Board.http://www.infopop.com/products/ubb/index.html
> 
> The fusebox Topica lists are some of the best sources of information
> about Fusebox, and I'm sure many a developer have been turned off from

> Fusebox by the poor design of the system.  Its just too difficult to 
> extract information and answers from questions without having hours to

> read through every post.  I know you can create an app to index the 
> posts, but thats like attaching a jet engine to your yugo because it 
> keeps breaking down.  Sure it'll fix the problem, but it'd be a lot 
> easier to just get rid of the source of the problem in the first
place.
> 
> I may be out of line with these comments, but I've personally had 
> enough
> 
> of reading through 300 posts each time I'm trying to find an answer.  
> As
> 
> someone who is new to Fusebox, I can say that it really makes learning
> the methodology a pain in the neck.
> 
> As I see it, we are using Topica because thats the way the FB 
> community
> has communicated in the past.  Why can't we change this?  I just don't

> see any benefits to continuing to use such a system when so many
people 
> are obviously dissatisfied with it.  With all the smart people
collected
> 
> here and all the resources they bring with them, it just blows my mind
> that we are using Topica at all.  I don't have the clout to suggest 
> switching to a particular system, but maybe some of the prime movers
in 
> this community will step up to the plate.
> 
> Again, I apologize if I am out of line, but its something that needs 
> to
> be said.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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