Really? You know what an article reader is? Consider this...

I know what it means to be able to read an article (a permission). I do
*not* know what an ArticleReader is. Does it mean they can read
articles? Probably. Can they ONLY read articles? Hmmm...I don't know.
Can an ArticleEditor also read an article? Gee, I think so, but clearly
I'm guessing now. How about an ArticlePublisher: can they read an
article? Dang it. Why didn't they just use permissions!

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Heald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 1:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: secure tag and permissions


I would agree with Lee's statement.  I know what an article reader is,
what's an article reader permission?  Now if you need to be more
granular (not all readers can search) then you create another group for
searching.  I think at this point the argument is mainly one of
semantics.  I think it's more about how we view it than anything.

Anything you can do with permissions, I can do with groups.  Just two
different ways of doing it is all.

Tim Heald
ACP/CCFD
Application Development
www.schoollink.net

-----Original Message-----
From: hal helms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 12:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: secure tag and permissions


Where Lee and I disagree is that Lee doesn't see any distinction between
isArticleReader and the set of permissions, hasReadArticlePermission and
hasSearchArticlePermission. In Lee's model, there are no such things as
independent permissions. Lest I misrepresent it, here are Lee's words:
"What's a Permission? Show me one? It's a very abstract little beastie.
Too abstract for me."

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 10:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: secure tag and permissions



Patrick McElhaney wrote:
> That is, instead of
> <cfif hasReadArticlePermission>Read this article</cfif>
> <cfif hasSearchArticlePermission>Search this article</cfif>
>
> this works okay for you:
> <cfif isArticleReader>
>   Read this article
>   Search this article
> </cfif>

Now you have me wondering if I've been reading Lee all wrong... I never
even considered that his thinking might be along those lines. Instead, I

figured he was thinking:

<cfif isArticleReader>
     <cfset hasReadArticlePermission = true>
     <cfset hasSearchArticlePermissioon = true>
</cfif>

<cfif hasReadArticlePermission>Read this article</cfif>
<cfif hasSearchArticlePermission>Search this article</cfif>

--
Roger






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