Re: secure tag and permissions

[Lee Borkman]

That's the facts, Jack! My conceptual model includes: People Groups (both application-independent "social groups"and application-specific "roles") Business Rules That's all there is in my authentication/authorisation/customisation world view.  I could add another element called a Permission, but to me a Permission is simply the result of applying Business Rules to the Groups.  What I usually do, though, is apply the Business Rules to the Groups as and when required, without actually storing the result away in some data construct called a Permission.  I can do that, and sometimes do, but it's a coding decision, not a conceptual issue.   A more fundamental distinction with Hal's world view, though, is that I simply do not allow Business Rules to act directly on People (as opposed to Groups).  Nor have I ever been approached by a client who has ever proposed a Business Rule that applies directly to a particular Person.   I won't try quoting Hal - the courts are over-worked enough already.   Thanks all, LeeBB     ----- Original Message ----- From: hal helms   Where Lee and I disagree is that Lee doesn't see any distinction between isArticleReader and the set of permissions, hasReadArticlePermission and hasSearchArticlePermission. In Lee's model, there are no such things as independent permissions. Lest I misrepresent it, here are Lee's words: "What's a Permission? Show me one? It's a very abstract little beastie. Too abstract for me." -----Original Message----- From: Roger B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Patrick McElhaney wrote: > That is, instead of > <cfif hasReadArticlePermission>Read this article</cfif> > <cfif hasSearchArticlePermission>Search this article</cfif> > > this works okay for you: > <cfif isArticleReader> >   Read this article >   Search this article > </cfif> Now you have me wondering if I've been reading Lee all wrong... I never even considered that his thinking might be along those lines. Instead, I figured he was thinking: <cfif isArticleReader>      <cfset hasReadArticlePermission = true>      <cfset hasSearchArticlePermissioon = true> </cfif> <cfif hasReadArticlePermission>Read this article</cfif> <cfif hasSearchArticlePermission>Search this article</cfif> -- ==^================================================================ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bUrFMa.bV0Kx9 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^================================================================