Having been a part of a mostly failed attempt at a "community" application before I would recommend the following.
1. Assign a leader. Pick someone who has a lot of time and is dedicated to this. Most of the reason the other app fell apart was because the 4 of us who were serious started getting bogged down with external stuff like paying jobs. 2. Be vary strict about your requirements, and make very very small and measurable iterations. Don't try and bite off too much. 3. Take any advice from the "senior" FB members seriously. I tried but didn't follow all the suggestions I got from people in the know. I think this contributed greatly to our lack of success. Most of all pick a very confident and pushy project head. I hate to say it but you almost have to bully people into doing things. I mean besides a small core of rock steady people who are serious you will probably get a lot of people who just want to watch and not really work. Sorry if I sound kind of negative, I feel there are a few people here who put a lot of work into something only to get let down, sorry if anyone feels like I did some of the letting down :( In short have whoever takes charge get in touch with me. I live to code :) Tim Heald ACP/CCFD Application Development www.schoollink.net -----Original Message----- From: Drew Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:32 PM To: Fusebox List Subject: FLASH, CF, PHP, SOAP, Fusebox, XML, UML for Fuseml tool (was:Site Logic Flowch Alright, how about a little feedback here. I'll admit that I'm never done anything collaborative like this with anyone outside of Oklahoma. Looks like we have several volunteers so far. Drew Harris Tim Heald Jeff Miller John Farrar David Huyck...? Any others...? How should we proceed? Start a list, or just collaborate off line? Perhaps we should start a temp list so others can join as time goes by. Thoughts...? I think this project will involve ColdFusion, PHP, Perhaps SOAP, Fusebox (of course), XML, Flash, and UML... As well as creating some standards for FUSEML along the way... Very cool stuff! Well? Drew Harris On 4/12/02 3:41 PM, "Timothy Heald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David, > I think you are exactly right. If you use an XML file to provide the data > you can edit it using whatever language you feel like. I would like to learn > some more about XML, specifically how it works with CF. Shoot me a line if > I can lend a hand. > > Tim Heald > ACP/CCFD :) > Application Development > www.schoollink.net > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: David Huyck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 3:48 PM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: Site Logic Flowchart Tool >> >> >> It seems to me that you would never have to touch Flash for this >> project if it >> is done right. If the Flash graphing tool is built to simply >> accept generic >> input, you should be able to just create a page to output the data for the >> SWF, and it wouldn't matter if that page was built in PHP of CF. >> >> my two cents, >> David Huyck >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jeff Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:08 PM >> Subject: Re: Site Logic Flowchart Tool >> >> >> | I'd be interested in doing a possible PHP version of this app. My PHP >> | skills are a bit limited (I managed to make it through the >> | wireframetool, not sure how I did that one) and Flash experience is >> | non-existent, but I'll give it a go. >> | >> | Jeff >> | >> | On Fri, 2002-04-12 at 13:59, John Farrar wrote: >> | > I am game for the project Drew... my email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... >> let's give it a go. It's fun to build cool tools. (The pay is not quite as >> rewarding though!) >> | > >> | > John >> | > >> | > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/12/02 01:23PM >>> >> | > What do you think John? >> | > Anyone else think this is a good idea and want to/can help with it? >> | > >> | > -Drew Harris >> | > On 4/12/02 12:06 PM, "Steve Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> | > >> | > > Why don't you two team up and build it. >> | > > >> | > > Steve >> | > > >> | > > Drew Harris wrote: >> | > > >> | > >> John, >> | > >> I originally posted this to the steering list with no response. >> | > >> Maybe this is a better place for it...? >> | > >> >> | > >> Alright, not sure this is the best place for this post, >> but I'll try it >> here >> | > >> first. >> | > >> I'd personally love to see a simple Flash/Fusebox app that >> allows on >> the >> | > >> fly, on the web creation of UML documents for Fusebox apps and the >> business >> | > >> processes that surround them. >> | > >> Wouldn't think it'd be that hard to develop something like >> this using >> | > >> Flash...? >> | > >> -Drew Harris >> | > >> >> | > >> On 4/12/02 10:44 AM, "John Farrar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> | > >> >> | > >>> I was thinking... has anyone built a flowcharting tool that goes >> through the >> | > >>> fuseactions, gets the XFA's and creates a flowchart based on exit >> | > >>> fuseactions. >> | > >>> It should be simple to do... but it would be even better >> if there were >> a >> | > >>> tool >> | > >>> that could do a logic map. This would help in testing, >> debugging and >> | > >>> enhancement. (If someone makes one... we should also have >> some sort of >> | > >>> versioning built in.) >> | > >>> >> | > >>> John Farrar >> | > >>> >> | > >>> >> | > >> >> | > > >> | > > >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | > >> | >> | >> | >> | >> | >> >> >> > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ==^================================================================ This email was sent to: [email protected] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bUrFMa.bV0Kx9 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^================================================================
