From: Thomas Lunde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>>Well, of course patterns require energy.  No energy -- nothing
>>moves -- no pattern.
>
>Think of the thermostat circuit with it's built in feedback responses.  The
>structure, the physical part is a furnace, a temp control, some circuitry.
>Where is the pattern.  It is in the settings of the various components.  If
>the settings are at 72 degrees, everything functions for human comfort.  If
>the settings are a 90 degrees, everyone has major discomfort.  Did the
>system change in any way?  No, the pattern was changed by resetting the
>controls, same amount of energy as before in the circuitry, of course more
>energy was burned to create the second situation but that is not pattern
>energy, but the result of the pattern.

This is true.  But if you run out of energy, your thermostat
doesn't do anything -- your pattern ends.

>Relying totally on what we can measure, observe, calculate is the
scientific
>model of problem solving.  The changes show up in the physical, but the
>cause of the changes is not in the physical but in the pattern that the
>physical is operating within.

Physical operating within a non-physical pattern?  Are you sure?
Have you ever seen it?  <G>

Jay



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