RE: [Futurework]

[Harry Pollard]

Bill,   As I mentioned elsewhere, the trouble with modern “scientists” is that they don’t seek verity, but only evidence that will prove they are right. Contrary evidence is discarded. It seems to me that this has been happening with much research associated with AIDS.   Definitions are always a problem. The accepted definition of AIDS is any of the listed diseases that happen in the presence of HIV. No HIV and you have pneumonia. Have HIV and pneumonia and you have AIDS.   Duesberg is a thorn in the side of the establishment. He is too able and experienced to ignore and much of what he says makes sense.   I don’t think throwing money down the drain makes much sense, but that is what is likely to happen to the US contribution – if it ever arrives. Political corruption probably does more harm than AIDS and even if USW money gets to Africa, one wonders if it will finish up in Swiss banks.   I still think that providing more nourishment for African kids will do more for the epidemic than anything else. You might remember by comment on the refugee camps in Kenya where they got 3 meals a day and AIDS was almost unimportant (as compared with Kenya).   However, I also mentioned that meals are to be cut for the refugees and I wondered if the incidence of AIDS would rise. I’ve never found out, but it would be interesting to know.   As you know, Duesberg suggests behavior and particularly the use of drugs offer a more convincing explanation for the spread of AIDS. If he’s right and the reason is that the drugs impact adversely the ability of the patient to resist infection – then my point about malnutrition becomes more valid.   Harry   ******************************************** Henry George School of Social Science of Los Angeles Box 655  Tujunga  CA  91042 Tel: 818 352-4141  --  Fax: 818 353-2242 http://haledward.home.comcast.net ********************************************   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 11:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Futurework]   Harry,   While I feel that there are some problems with the definitions of HIV and AIDS, this, in no way, diminishes the impact of the disease. There are also problems with selective screening [heavily MCH clinics which is where the majority of community health visits take place]. However, if you argue that 30% of pregnant clinic visitors are HIV-positive, and you have overestimated by 200%, 15% is still an astronomical number.   I had on an evaluation team to Haiti that I headed a woman who had argued in published form that dysplagia of the vagina was unrelated to cervical cancer. She was wrong. A team from San Francisco did projections of the growth of HIV/AIDS [different definitions in those days] in the US and said that it would die out once it ran out of Gay white males. We didn't run out of Gay males and minorities are the more likely victims now. Their projects resulted in a delay in action and the deaths of thousands due to the complacency they generated.   This whole argument is a way of covering W's ass since the $15 billion additional for HIV/AIDS he promised over the next five years is turning into $0.3 billion additional this year. At that rate, it would take fifty years to come up with the $15 billion. I like Karen's 'Faith-based Economics'. Isn't this 'faith and begorrah'?   Bill   On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 11:35:01 -0800 "Harry Pollard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi! One of the things about which Keith and I disagree is AIDS. You may have noticed the latest news that a careful count in Kenya  has led to a conclusion that Africa doesn’t have the number of AIDS cases it is supposed to have. I accidentally came across this article in which Peter Duesberg, a long time critic of the AIDS establishment, got a paper into the NAS Journal after .  .  .  .  Well read yourself. It’s rather long, but does expose the hidden activities of scientists. I think that the AIDS establishment (like its Global Warming equivalent) spends its time trying to prove its rightness, rather than to reach the truth. I think you will enjoy it. An Editor of the NAS Journal said: “The  history  of science is one of overturning accepted dogma” What if political and monetary pressures are so strong, science is no longer able to do its job? Harry   --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004

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