usually see things in shade of gray but it seems that one has to "take sides" in this situation. 

Why? I don’t see why “in this situation” we must take an either/or perspective.

Going back in time seems a waste.  We'll end up at Plymouth Rock and our role vis a vis aboriginals.  And then we can move on to how we "won the West."   I agree that the West has blood on its hands.

Viewing historical precedents for human behavior is wasteful? To omit review is to limit success. Why comply with failure?

We live in the West.  Our present lives and futures are tied in with the West.

We live in an increasingly globailzed West. Our present is changing and our future is less certain to be tied to the West.

In a Khmer Rouge situation all those on this list with smooth hands and glasses would be classified as enemies. 

???

I don't think we should give in so easily.

Agree. But review of strategy is not only traditional, but part of the military discipline. Politics and society must, too.

Maybe OK for some, but doesn't get us far (I don't think) in the current situation.

The Marshall Plan rebuilt what military imperialism and bigotry destroyed. What can we learn from that in the ME and global south to undermine the roots of terrorism?

arthur

 karen

 

 

 -----Original Message-----
From: Lawrence deBivort [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2005 10:56 AM
To: Cordell, Arthur: ECOM; 'Karen Watters Cole'; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Futurework] More thoughts on the London attacks

I see the attacks on the US (Sept 11) and UK, now, as just further steps in the long and slow denouement to European colonialism. Until the West starts treating the ‘third world’ with respect, we can expect to continue to have these kinds of incidents.

 

To call this a declaration of war on the West seems incorrect, to me. If anything, the West declared war on the third world, going back to the beginning of the 20th century.  To the extent that we haven’t corrected the egregious policies the West adopted back then, we will continue to find resistance to them.  Nor was there a declaration of war on us by a ‘network’ – there was an attack (Sept 11), and our reaction to it give special impetus to the emergence of a network of militant resistance to some of the policies of some Western countries.  Now there is such a network (two significant ones, in fact), and the capabilities of some of their members to take action against the US, UK, and Spain is greater than before the US-driven ‘war on terror.’  (Australia next? Italy? Poland? Russia?) This war on terror was a massive political, strategic, and linguistic mistake, and I have no reason to believe that the US government will be able to pull back from it – too many politicos have hitched their stars to it.

 

The time of the West has come and gone; it is time for Westerners to start behaving like responsible and equal members of the world community.  It is also time for white people to stop thinking that we are superior to people with darker skin; this has been an integral part of the European colonialist problem.

 

I should point out that the US State Department’s own numbers on the number of terrorist attacks has shown a steady decline over the last decade. Sept 11, Madrid and London are not typical, and that is what makes them so interesting. 

 

Clearly, keeping the UK and US military ‘strong’ will remain irrelevant to the security of the civil populations of those countries, so long as the those countries fail to both understand and address the root causes of the matter.  But it will cost those two countries a lot of money, and for many that seems to be sufficient reason to do so.

 

Any country participating in the US invasion and occupation of Iraq can expect to be targeted.  Why should it be otherwise?

 

 

 

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