RE: [Futurework] Throwing rocks doesn't work any more

Sat, 23 Jul 2005 20:53:06 -0700

Ed,

 

You said:

 

‘It is part of the human condition that we can't just let people "be",’

 

Maybe we should simply “let them be” which is the essence of the free market.

 

Harry

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Weick
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 7:35 AM
To: [email protected]; 'M.Blackmore'; Lawrence deBivort
Subject: Re: [Futurework] Throwing rocks doesn't work any more

 

I'd suggest that one of the main problems since time immemorial has been the placement of belief systems -- ideologies, theologies and theoretical constructs -- above human needs.  We do not innocently ask the poor, those abroad or in our own backyard, how we might help them improve their lives.  We impose solutions on them.  Communists imposed solutions derived from Marxist economics and the glorification of the working class.  Neoconservatives impose solutions based on the economic and moral superiority of American capitalism, freedom and democracy.  Christians offer the love of Jesus Christ, but only to those who convert.  Not being any of them, I can't speak for Jews, Muslims, Hindus or Buddhists, but I'm pretty certain they all hold views on how people should "be".  It is part of the human condition that we can't just let people "be", we are forever trying to make them into something we think they should be and convince them of the superiority of our cause.  And when pushed too long and too hard, they start throwing rocks or planting bombs.  Those who are with us become heros or martyrs.  Those who are against us are fanatics or terrorists.

 

Ed

 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Lawrence deBivort" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "'M.Blackmore'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]>

Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 3:00 PM

Subject: RE: [Futurework] Throwing rocks doesn't work any more

 

> Where people and their governments don't 'get' that 1) oppression is no
> longer welcome in the world, and where people, no matter how poor, abused,
> or dark skinned will fight back.
>
> I would add other things that too many peoples and their governments still
> don't 'get':
>
> 2) That it is now the ability to learn and the discipline to work
> productively and constructively with others that will determine which
> societies prosper and which don't, rather than military might and
> belligerence.
>
> 3) That mutual respect and cooperation are the currencies that will measure
> success, rather than disdain for others and arrogance.
>
> These, and there are certainly more, are the 'new rules', and I do believe
> that they are better ones, morally and pragmatically, than those that have
> prevailed since the birth of the colonial era.
>
> Those that don't 'get' these ideas will continue to battle these ideas with
> threats, invasions, and occupation, but they will lose. I think the writing
> is on the wall.
>
> What other things might we include in the 'new rules'?
>
> Cheers,
> Lawry
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 3:56 PM
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>
> Lawrence deBivort wrote:
>
> > in every other country whose government and people don't 'get it.'
> >
> I'm not sure what "it" is. Perhaps someone could enlighten me?
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