You say " because the thin rainforest soil is very soon eroded
and depleted from commercial crops".

And then:

" In an entirely free market, the soy producers would plunder the
forests
even worse."

I know and they know and in a moment you will know that no
commercial firm would dream of growing anything in the
rainforest. This because the forest mostly grows above ground.
The tree roots are shallow (which is why they can be pulled down
with two tractors and a chain.

The stupid governmental land reform settled peasants in the rain
forest. They burned the trees and the ashes provided sustenance
for the first year crops. Then nothing would grow and the
government brought in fertilizers to keep their 
"land reform" program going.

I doubt there is much in the way of 'commercial crops' grown.
Hardwood is useful. Back when I looked at this, a hardwood tree
would fetch $10,000 - probably much more now. Unfortunately, the
hardwood doesn't grow in groves but singly - each may be
quarter-mile from the next.

There are probably patches of land within the forest that might
be cultivable, but it isn't a 'commercial' proposition in your
sense of the word.  

The cattle weren't in the rainforest but in the enormous area of
privately owned land away from the forest.

You are supposed to be a socialist but you have little to say
about the expropriation of the peasant from the soil - as Marx
would say.

Instead you make silly little quips about McDonalds.

I fear propaganda removes good thinking from the discussion. But
perhaps that is all that can be expected from a callow youth.

Harry

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Harry Pollard wrote:
> Working from memory, it seems to me that the rain forest
> encompasses an area of 2.5 million square miles.
>
> If, as is mentioned 40% of this will be lost, my thought is
that
> a lot of Soya can be produced on one million square miles.

But not for long, because the thin rainforest soil is very soon
eroded
and depleted from commercial crops, so they have to move on to
new
parcels of slashed forest.


> Actually most of the land of Brazil is not much used but is
held
> by large landholders. It's probably changed now, but my
favorite
> is the 84,000 acre "cattle ranch" containing 200 animals.

Cattle grazing is actually all that remains to do on the depleted
soil...


> It's probably government policy rather than the free market
that
> encourages Soya production.

In an entirely free market, the soy producers would plunder the
forests
even worse.  Would you say that McD is closer to government or to
Free
Market policies?

Chris




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