Harry Pollard wrote in reply to Brad:
> We should remember that production takes place only because of
> Wages - the return to Labor.

You mean only paid work gets done?  Who is paying you to write on FW?
McD?  Now you gave it away...


> I should mention that Labor includes the manager and the CEO.
> They are engaged in production together with the woman on the
> production line. A major triumph of the people who run society
> (helped by people like Marx and a legion of neo-Classical
> scholars) was to separate the "bosses and bossed" into warring
> camps, thereby obscuring the real movers and shakers.

True, Marx offered a red herring (literally).  The real warring camps
are producers vs. predators.  Unfortunately managers and CEOs tend to
be predators these days.  It could be different.


> So, modern left-wingers who should know better concentrate on
> such non-issues as urban poverty and lack of health care,
> inequality between wage-earners and the CEOs, affordable housing,
> educational funding, and a dozen more. Bush, and the Republican
> Party are usually blamed for these deficiencies, yet all of them
> existed long before Bush, or the GOP. In fact they existed a
> century ago, and two centuries ago in Europe.

Right, Bush wants to roll back the social progress of 2 centuries.


> Less so in North America two centuries ago - you'll recall that
> de Tocqueville was amazed at the absence of beggars is America.

Did they shoot them (like the Injuns) or let them starve?


> You should not have mentioned your last point about monetizing
> everything - including your breath. This is the sort of thing
> that the controlled economy is very good at doing. (The free
> market would laugh at such nonsense.)

Do you know how the mafia deals with air pollution and toxic waste?
Mafia (black market) is free trade, in your own words.  And in Brussels too.


> The danger is that should government economists read what you
> say, they might decide to try it.

They're already on their way, without Brad tipping them off.
Currently they're busy privatizing water.  I guess air will be next.


> I'll end with a de Tocqueville quote which I like.
>
> "The American Republic will endure, until politicians realize
> they can bribe the people with their own money."

Operation "Enduring Freedom" was an Orwellian typo.  It should
have read "Ending ur Freedom".

Chris



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SpamWall: Mail to this addy is deleted unread unless it contains the keyword
"igve".


_______________________________________________
Futurework mailing list
[email protected]
http://fes.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework

Reply via email to