Hi Pete,

To answer your question, variable interest rates of a universal currency could occur just as they do now within a national currency. A country with a central bank interest rate of, say, 4% p.a. can also have a spectrum of other interest rates operating within it (even up to 1,000% p.a. -- as is the case of Fidelity small loans in this country at present) according to the credit-worthiness of the borrower and the uses to which the loan is put.

Thus a traditional building society in this country requires evidence of a mortgagee's income and the deeds of the house being mortgaged -- the latter not only as collateral but as persuasive evidence of the use to which the loan is being put. At the other extreme, a loan shark (the local representative of a much larger firm such as Fidelity in this country) charging, say, 30-50% interest per week, dealing with a borrower with little or no collateral, constantly updates his much flimsier evidence. He usually lives in the same area as the borrower and visits the borrower every week (usually on payday or, more usually today, benefits day) to collect repayment.

It's up to the lender to ensure that he has the evidence of credit-worthiness and borrower's intention and has a continuing level of supervision that the loan is being carried out according to stated intention. However, since the rise of securitized mortgages and credit derivatives, contact with the original borrower or lender respectively may be any number of indirect steps away. The collateral follows through legally with the paper documents, but the value of the collateral becomes vaguer each time the paperwork is bought and sold -- rather like the game of Chinese Whispers.

Thus today's banks have little idea of the current circumstances affecting a great deal of the paperwork they possess -- but which they have been calling assets in their books. This is why the banks are not lending to one another -- they know that much of their own assets have values which are, in day-to-day practice, impossible to determine with any degree of accuracy. Each paperwork trail can only unwind when an original mortgagee pays off his loan or when an original creditor (or an intermediary) goes bankrupt.

Today, the present stock exchange crashes all round the world are supposed to be mainly due to sub-prime securitized mortgages in America but this is only the visible part of the iceberg. As some of these (only a minority a year or two ago) began to unwind -- visibly reducing the asset value of banks -- then a whole lot more financial paperwork started to became suspect.

Whereas only a year or so ago most Western economies were awash with money (and being absorbed by shares and houses and, simply, wasteful spending) we are now massively short of it. The stock exchanges will show us in the next few days whether governments are offering enough to reassure shareholders of banks and businesses. But this might be like trying to stem a river too far downstream and the real extent of the suspect paperwork will still not be known. My guess is that, over the next few weeks, the only way that the real situation will emerge is by continuing stock exchange slides which will then unwind many of the paper trails by the brutal process of making thousands of business bankrupt.

Keith



At 15:13 07/10/2008 -0700, you wrote:

Howdy Keith, welcome back...

On Tue, 07 Oct 2008, Keith Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The only other alternative is that a world currency could be
> adopted. This would stop currency speculation for one thing, prevent
> differential national inflations for another, and ensure that interest
> rates in this or that region were truly appropriate to the local
> circumstances and not guess-fixed by central banks for political
> reasons.
>
> And here we have two pointers which could make this politically
> feasible. Firstly, we have a World Bank already. Secondly, the idea of
> a transnational electronically-based currency is also firmly on the
> agenda. We already have PayPal and several other systems which aspire
> to do this.

Hmmm. First, I'm not convinced that things are so dire as to require
such radical measures. And second, though I agree that currency
speculation is an external force which can exert unnecessary hardship
on a region, I would say that a universal currency accompanied
by universal interest rates and borrowing practices (the inevitable
consequence) will exert hardships of their own, and I'm not sure which
would be worse.

Here in Canada we get to see the effects of a universal currency
and borrowing regime spread out over a widely disparate population
in vastly different geographic and economic circumstances, and it
can lead to hardships which seem near impossible to overcome, even
with the benefit of mutual goodwill, common language, etc. Some
parts of the country become "depressed areas" which are stubbornly
difficult to bring along to the economic health of the rest of
the country, due apparently to the combination of lack of obvious
business development prospects combined with relative geographic
inconvenience. I would suggest that on a world scale, the economic
violence done by such a regime would be orders of magnitude worse.

The obvious fix would be to impose a regional variation in interest
rates, but in this country, this has never been done (to my knowledge,
anyway, since the advent of national banks), whether because of the
perceived impossibility of policing the system, hidebound resistance or
lack of imagination, or insufficient daring. Your comment "This
would...ensure that interest rates in this or that region were truly
appropriate to the local circumstances and not guess-fixed by central
banks" seems to imply regional variable interest rates on the
universal currency, so I'm interested to hear how you believe
this can be done.

 -Pete V

Keith Hudson,
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