This doesn't completely match with my (very limited) experiences in this but
it is interesting and enlightening nevertheless.

MBG

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Slavitch <[email protected]>
Date: January 15, 2009 10:39:05 AM EST
To: [email protected]
Subject: Nortel: Where the trouble began

Dave;

For IP, if you wish.

I can now feel free to say that the company in question in this past thread
was Nortel's research arm Bell-Northern Research.

BNR not only ignored the Internet, their leadership was actively hostile
towards it as it was a threat to OSI.

Regards

Michael

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Begin forwarded message:

From: "Michael Slavitch" <[email protected]>
Date: August 19, 2008 10:20:21 AM EDT
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [IP] Re:      NSF and the Birth of the Internet

I was at a seminar in the early 1990's put on by a CERN researcher named Tim
Berners-Lee. HTTP was at such an early stage that the demonstration required
someone's borrowed NeXT workstation and the core group that remained could
sit at a table for eight at a Malaysian restaurant.  The original group was
somewhat larger. Sadly a C level of a then major telecoms vendor was there
and demanded to know if http was an ISO standard.  Tim Berners-Lee of course
said "no" in the rather obvious and dismissive tone.

That C-level then stood up and angrily said "well, in that case I am most
definitely not interested!" and stormed out. Considering that 2/3rds of the
people there either worked for him (or as grad students, wanted to) the
audience became quite small, and that major vendor became wilfully obstinate
as a matter of policy.  It blocked http
access for its employees.    It ignored the impact and the potential
for the rest of the decade until that C was fired along with nearly all the
staff that attended and left that seminar. It remains a hollow shell.

TBL indeed considered HTTP an open standards based response to the atrocious
and restrictive Gopher protocol.  He did what so many people at CERN do,
when confronted with a restrictive inferior particle
annihilate it with the biggest blast possible.   As a consequence he
also destroyed several  companies who were so intent on comfortably fighting
their well ordered 100 year war that they refused to even consider a sliver
of change.

Michael Slavitch
Ottawa Ontario Canada




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