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From: [email protected] on behalf of Michael Gurstein Sent: Sun 1/18/2009 6:33 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [Ottawadissenters] FW: [IP] Nortel: Where the trouble began This doesn't completely match with my (very limited) experiences in this but it is interesting and enlightening nevertheless. MBG -----Original Message----- From: Michael Slavitch <[email protected] <mailto:slavitch%40gmail.com> > Date: January 15, 2009 10:39:05 AM EST To: [email protected] <mailto:dave%40farber.net> Subject: Nortel: Where the trouble began Dave; For IP, if you wish. I can now feel free to say that the company in question in this past thread was Nortel's research arm Bell-Northern Research. BNR not only ignored the Internet, their leadership was actively hostile towards it as it was a threat to OSI. Regards Michael ---------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------- Begin forwarded message: From: "Michael Slavitch" <[email protected] <mailto:slavitch%40gmail.com> > Date: August 19, 2008 10:20:21 AM EDT To: [email protected] <mailto:dave%40farber.net> Subject: Re: [IP] Re: NSF and the Birth of the Internet I was at a seminar in the early 1990's put on by a CERN researcher named Tim Berners-Lee. HTTP was at such an early stage that the demonstration required someone's borrowed NeXT workstation and the core group that remained could sit at a table for eight at a Malaysian restaurant. The original group was somewhat larger. Sadly a C level of a then major telecoms vendor was there and demanded to know if http was an ISO standard. Tim Berners-Lee of course said "no" in the rather obvious and dismissive tone. That C-level then stood up and angrily said "well, in that case I am most definitely not interested!" and stormed out. Considering that 2/3rds of the people there either worked for him (or as grad students, wanted to) the audience became quite small, and that major vendor became wilfully obstinate as a matter of policy. It blocked http access for its employees. It ignored the impact and the potential for the rest of the decade until that C was fired along with nearly all the staff that attended and left that seminar. It remains a hollow shell. TBL indeed considered HTTP an open standards based response to the atrocious and restrictive Gopher protocol. He did what so many people at CERN do, when confronted with a restrictive inferior particle annihilate it with the biggest blast possible. As a consequence he also destroyed several companies who were so intent on comfortably fighting their well ordered 100 year war that they refused to even consider a sliver of change. 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