Sorry if this is a repeat. It seemed to disappear from our system.
...another quantum physicality???
Darryl
Originally posted by Natalia (below)
Hi Steve, Hi Mike, and All
If you look up the definitions of spirituality or spiritualism, there
are no mentions of "natural" aspects. Nothing about measurable energy,
nor matter, of course. I do think that /natural /happens to be the right
word, though I'm not sure we share similar p.o.v.'s as to why. I would
argue that we are simply not very good at identifying that natural
energy, and that it is presently too complex and predominately immeasurable.
I prepared the following only to impart possibilities, not facts, and
though it was gathered primarily from material which is in print and
presented by highly respected research scientists, it represents for the
most part, opinions about reality. If you find it questionable, you may
wish to read up on neurosciences or quantum physics. I wrote this in the
way it makes sense to me, but keep in mind that the quantum world can
appear to the very physicists who explore it, a world of fantasy.
Classical science is really a relatively recent way of trying to explain
what takes place in the universe. But centuries ago, we depended on the
church to tell us the facts. If we dare venture into the subatomic
layers, we find that quantum physics seems to be making headway where
the previous stakeholders could not meet before. Quantum physics, having
emerged following earlier scientific research into elementary particles
and discovering a soft inner core to our material outer world, explores
an organismic universe that extends through time/space. It is, in large
part, the new paradigm for current fields of play for top minds.
At CERN, who allegedly employs almost half of the world's particle
physicists, researchers are exploring the subatomic universe attempting
to explain our origins, and if really lucky the question of why we're
here. But more likely, the funding coming from today's wealthiest
organizations, space/time manipulation is believed to be the real pulse.
The GUT theories (General Unified Theories) are explored at CERN.
Quantum physics explores possibilities within the theory of an entangled
universe in which we are all connected. Space is merely the construct
that gives the illusion that there are separate objects. Quantum physics
is popularly known for research around observer affects on the outcome
of experiments, but a more generous overview would be that researchers
are exploring the mind of nature itself, a world of pure potentiality,
of probability waves, pure abstract self-aware consciousness. They speak
of waves rather than particles; non-material vectors in a complex,
infinite dimensional space. (A material particle cannot exist in
multiple locations simultaneously, nor does it diffract nor interfere
with itself like a wave.) It is a non-material inner mind behind outer
matter, the very stuff that thoughts are made of. This abstract,
non-material quantum world underlies and governs the outer material
universe, according to John Hagelin, one of quantum physics' more
well-known authorities in the area of unified quantum field theories. He
has conducted pioneering research at CERN, SLAC (Stanford Linear
Accelerator Center) and developed a successful grand unified field
theory based on Superstring.
Mind, in the animal brain, has still not been located. Neurological
science cannot find it, though the human brain has been thoroughly
mapped. Areas of its processing are apparent, yet the brain can only
reflect consciousness. It does not create it. The actual source is still
at large and unknown. Brain is instrumental to facilitate consciousness
to develop mind which learns and evolves. Brain is like the palette on
which mind creates.
That we may be hard-wired for religion is a stretch for me. I feel that
religion and spirituality are, or have evolved to be, for too many
reasons, mutually exclusive. Yet I believe we are hard-wired for
spirituality, even at the cellular level, where addiction to good
feelings and connection to /all that is /take priority. The human brain
is presumed to process 400 billion bits of information per second, yet
because of filtration through our sense organs, is aware of
approximately only 2,000 bits. An atom is mostly seemingly empty, and
its electron is, comparatively, if the electron was basketball size,
roughly 20 miles away from its nucleus. Then, should we add to this
possibility that of the latent energy within the vacuum of a single atom
of hydrogen, which is estimated--in a universe according to recent
astronomical research to be more flat than we suspected--to contain a
trillion times more energy than all the matter in the stars out to
twenty billion light years, we can see that classical science has far to
go to explain what all the predominant, unseen, immeasurable
constituents within our known fields of energy may be. If consciousness
allows you to control even a small fraction of that, according to
William Tiller, Ph D, prof. Emeritus, Stanford Dept. of Material Science
& Engineering, creating a Big Bang (as intended at CERN on a small
scale) should be no problem. Merging neurophysiology with quantum
physics will yield many answers about what we are not yet aware.
In response to Mike's reply about human hardwiring, first, capacity to
abstract should have been in place at the point of self-awareness, since
it is an attribute of thought itself. For stories, there is no doubt
about their impact. I would contend that hardwiring, in this example, is
actually for feelings, as opposed to stories. Feelings are satisfied by
feeding our addictions, which include all things we cannot or should not
stop, bad or good. Stories are a compilation or a tapestry of images
which evoke feelings that appeal to our various addictions. This would
include the innate need for adventure, or to meet new people and live
through other experiences in order to gain greater knowledge and
feelings of connectedness. The body's cells are enlivened by opportunity
to emerge with new understanding or experience. Our need for good
feelings usually prevails, though if in early childhood we were exposed
to abuses, our need for re-enactment of these psychodramas--to futilely
try to control the past in the present--may sometimes manifest
perversely as desirable feelings. Stories which evoke fear are also
generated in order to control and manipulate. Fear is well known to be
addictive, and is exploited heavily. Candace Pert, Ph D, former section
chief for Brain Biochemistry, Clinical Neuroscience Branch of the
N.I.H., specialist in peptides, their receptors and the immune system
and author of "Molecules of Emotion", actually holds patents for
modified peptides in the treatment of Alzheimer's disease, stroke and
head trauma. She has extensively observed addiction at the cellular
level, and contends that emotions are actual molecules. Each cell has a
consciousness, each one needs a fix of something.
I would dispute the over-all claim by David Villano posted from the
Alternet. We have only to look to the dysfunctional Soviet Union or The
People's Republic of China to tear apart this notion of well being
amongst the so-called irreligious. The Scandinavian success stories also
come with a healthy portion of reports stating that spirituality is very
high there, though traditional religion may be scarce. Prosperity today
implies the requirement of ever-increasing profit, whereas its past
meaning had more to do with success and a flourishing life. First
Nations people once had healthy lives, environments and micro economies,
and also had deep religious and spiritual beliefs. Many of these were
posted here before. The author is picking facts to suit. America may be
religious, yet a strong sense of caring, empathy, community and respect
for their "God's" natural creations are lost in the roar of dogmatic
cries from those who create God in their own selfish, vengeful,
non-insightful image.
However, if I could get this on track within the guidelines of
Futurework, and all things related...
Where it comes to the socio-economic well-being of any country, its
economy is a /direct reflection of its spirituality./ As are its
politics, religions, its educational systems, its social safety net, its
artistic and cultural development, its health care, or its environmental
policies and vitality.
All Best,
Natalia Kuzmyn
Steve Kurtz wrote:
Re:
Do not get mixed up between religion and spirituality. It will be the
dogma of a religion and how that is used to control the people that
will cause the downturn of the socio-economic conditions of a people.
Darryl
If by spiritual you mean other than natural then you are the one who is
"mixed up." It is normal to have subjective evaluations of reality, with
a hierarchy for different perceived elements. It is the positing of some
supernatural, with the leaders having a pipeline to it, that most
religions use as justification for all of their dogmas.
If you or anyone can offer sharable, verifiable evidence of any non
energy/matter existence, you can collect $US 1 million from The James
Randi Foundation:
http://www.randi.org/site/
Steve
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