Steve,

There's a lot of this sort of stuff about -- the Santa Fe school, chaos theory and suchlike. Much of it is very dubious. Unlike the two in The Prisoners' Dilemma the bacteria are in touch with one another -- or at least with a sufficiently wide swathe around them to produce a chemical gradient which decides for them.

You're right about the issue of free will lying under the surface. At the personal level of decision-making there's probably no such thing. Brain scans show very clearly that decisions (activation potentials) are set up subconsciously in the pre-motor areas of our frontal lobes and we are only conscious of them as they actually take place. "Rational" decision-making (that is, what we think we're doing before or during the actual event) is really only a rationalization product of a great deal more that's already been set-up in our heads.

I like to think, however, that there is free will, or at least, free-er decision-making at a wider and deeper level than the individual. For example, when a scientific theory is widely believed among fellow specialists then it's difficult to shift, particularly from within the community. It takes a younger, incompletely programmed mind, often from outside the particular special interest group, to point out the anomalies in existing theory and supply a new paradigm. I'm thinking in particular of Lynn Margulis's brilliant suggestion that there is DNA in cells that lies outside the nucleus. Her original paper was rejected by 17 scientific journals 30 years ago before finding a publisher. It found favour with enough other younger biologists to be given discussion-room and, today, her idea is "obvious" to all, and has probably been one of the greatest biological discoveries of the last century.

Another example that interests me is extreme symbiosis in nature. For example, one particular orchid has a flower that is almost identical in colouring and petal shape to a female wasp of one particular species of which the male pollinates only that particular orchid. This is symbiosis that's so tight that the existence of either species now depends on the existence of the other. If one goes extinct, so does the other. "Oh", say the biologists, "that's an example of co-evolution." As if that explains it! Yes, one can readily imagine the gene variations of that particular wasp species gradually being selected to go to one particular flower perfume. One can imagine gene variations of the orchid gradually being selected so the flower look like that particular wasp. But were they individual "decisions" of the two parties? What got the process started in the first place? Random mutations in the two species? That's possible. But if you do the maths of these sorts of symbioses each of them would take billions or trillions of years of random mutations for each pair of them to begin to click. There are many symbioses in nature and one can, in fact, regard the whole of life of earth as one big symbiosis of lesser and greater connections between species. There's some wider and deeper field of information being involved here, something along the lines of David Bohm's concept of a quantum field -- but then, that's a theory which is still largely ignored, as is James Lovelock's Gaia hypothesis, a partner theory to Bohm's but in the biological field.

Keith

At 10:15 10/12/2009 -0500, you wrote:

Worth reading the 3 pg piece. Free will issue is in the background in my view.

Steve

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The researchers discovered in their study that the bacteria’s game theory decision making process is far more advanced than the well-known game theory problem known as the Prisoner's Dilemma.

Scientists studying how bacteria under stress collectively weigh and initiate different survival strategies say they have gained new insights into how humans make strategic decisions that affect their health, wealth and the fate of others in society.

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<http://www.physorg.com/news179521562.html>http://www.physorg.com/news179521562.html


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