Arthur, I haven't read Daly for a very long time (and even then not that closely) so I'm not sure if this was covered... The real challenge to any future scenario are the LDC's... China, India and Brazil are, as we know, moving forward very quickly and incuding greater or lesser degrees of wide dispersal of the proceeds of "development"... There are any number of other countries/peoples waiting in the wings for similar develoopments once (if) they get their governance issues sorted out. (Good governance IMHO will take even the most resource poor country quite a long way in terms of "development") ANYmodel of the future has to take all of the above into consideration and what that means for a "stable/steady state" economy is that at the global level it has to incllude somre reasonable standard of living for the other 5.5 billlion or so... Question, is that feasible/commensurable with that model? If not, and I suspect that based on the resource availability assumptions tossed around in this part of the (virtual) world, it may not be, then your "(positive) image of the future" will need to include a "(postive) image" of how we get from here to there, which I suspect is rather more difficult to envisage than your first challenge. M
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Arthur Cordell Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 7:15 AM To: [email protected]; 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION,EDUCATION' Subject: Re: [Futurework] Many of the jobs lost during the recession are notcoming back Agree. When we "hit the wall" the current economic model will change drastically. What is needed is a positive image of the future, even a future characterized by "the new realities". I favour some form of stable or steady state economy a la Daly; or a variant thereof. Arthur From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Kurtz Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 9:42 AM To: RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION Subject: Re: [Futurework] Many of the jobs lost during the recession are not coming back On 5/14/2010 9:26 AM, Arthur Cordell wrote: Increasingly people are needed in the economy as consumers, not producers. It is in this sense that the production problem has been solved. When throughput gets constrained by peak oil, peak fisheries, peak topsoil, peak aquifers, peak forests/watersheds...and events like the current (now 10X more than estimated) oil leak hasten toxicity in the habitat...needing greater consumption by more people will be the opposite of what is needed! Steve
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