Yes, the Spaniards didn’t have sewers and they were filthy.     The Mexica
took two baths a day, had pure drinking water brought through aqueducts,
they recycled their sewage through a complex system of boats to the mainland
where they unloaded the waste into areas where it could age and become less
toxic and was then recycled into the gardens, orchards and flowering plants.
The greatest gardens in the world at that time.    The Spaniards horses and
wheels tore up the shallow soil on sand and destroyed the earth that the
Mexica had worked for a hundred years to make possible to support one of the
largest populations in the world at the time.      400,000 people when
London was 58,000 and dying in its stench with the Thames running brown from
human feces.   The same water the English drank.      It’s no wonder that
Europe consumed so much wine.    They repeated mess when they arrived.
Just look at Louisberg in Nova Scotia where the Canadian government has
rebuilt the old town that the Mic Mac would refuse to spend the night in
because of the disease danger and the stench.     The Canadians have a
perfume that the actors playing the soldiers in the old town wears.    You
can smell it when they march by.    It’s the smell of human feces.      Is
it any wonder the Spaniards wanted what the Mexica had and had built?    But
they had no idea how and their wells and technology that replaced the
aqueducts have destroyed the water table for Mexico City.     If it was
their God who gave the Mexica smallpox then their God was Satan.     What a
disgusting history. 

 

From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ed Weick
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 5:14 PM
To: RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION
Subject: Re: [Futurework] FW: Tremble, Banks, Tremble

 

Yeah, Ray, but whatever the Aztecs did, it didn't work for them.  Here's an
excerpt from something I wrote a few years ago:

 

as told in Patricia de Fuentes, ed. and trans., The Conquistadors: First
Person Accounts of the Conquest of Mexico, p.159.

"… Cortés … After occupying Tenochtitlán … he and his troops had to fight
their way out of the city to sanctuary …. Years later … a former follower of
Cortés who had become a Dominican friar, recalled the terrible retreat ….
"When the Christians were exhausted from war, God saw fit to send the
Indians smallpox, and there was a great pestilence in the city. " 

 

Ed

 

 

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> P.S.:  It is usual to first answer a question before one poses the next
>       question.  My earlier question to you was:
> 
>> > Tell me how it really was.  Did the Aztecs not sacrifice humans?
> 
> 
> 
> One per day.   Rain or shine unlike capitalism which sacrifices humans to
> the God of profit in the thousands but you won't understand how that fits.
> It is said even on the History channel that there were thousands
sacrificed
> as in the Coliseum in Rome but if you take the spaces, as I have, within
> which this was supposed to have happened plus the amount of the time and
the
> amount of blood on a high platform without rails and with blood being
> slippery, it all doesn't make sense so I discount that as the story of
> either Aztecs trying to scare you or Spaniards trying to justify their
> murder.   6,000 in one day, unarmed, sick with Smallpox and the blood ran
> three inches deep in the streets.    Per Capita the Aztecs were no more
> violent or murderous than any other society in the world.   Less than the
> Romans and glorified their war stories.   They were however, very
operatic.
> They also had the best water and sewage system in the world as well as the
> best agricultural technology.    Their Arts were considered by Durer to be
> wonderful and amazing what he saw before the Europeans melted them down
for
> the Gold.   Their feather paintings were the equal of paintings in the
world
> and the great library at Tenochtitlan had thousands of books on every
> subject.   The bragged and they were as tough as anyone would have to be
to
> survive a 9 day no food or water fast to come of age.    Yes they did
> sacrifice but for the gifts given by the Gods, they thought that it was
only
> proper to do so.   All Indian people give a little food and drink to the
> Spirits before we eat and we honor the food that gives its life that we
may
> life.   To the Aztecs the Gods sacrificed that this world could to being.
> Could a human whose energy and spirit (teotl) came from and was a part of
> the Gods, do any less?    After all there was no death, only
transformation.
> By the way, I believe that still. 
> 
> Now you make a good point about English.   Many concepts have to do with
the
> language you use.   English is particular around nouns and adjectives of
> which there are thousands.   But it is process poor so it doesn't contain
> information that has to do with concepts like entropy or conservation of
> energy or a multi-layered universe.   Such things in English are not
natural
> to the language.  They term them all "Supernatural."    And that is more
> than a little of the problem. 
> 
> I would also point out that the English speakers are perfectly happy with
> this terrible computer program on this list  that doesn't include any
> information beyond words.   I included a set of pictures of my home
> reservation and it couldn't go through the site.  Yet without the context
of
> where I'm from and where I've come to you would imagine that I would speak
> about certain economic issues more theoretically than I do.   I draw on my
> life experience.   I showed where I began but that was not words so it was
> not admissible.   Pity. 
> 
> REH
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