Michael,
I would guess that the different Internet usage between the US and Canada
is due to the higher rate of immigration to the former -- that is, of those
who have not yet acculturated. While the figures might not be directly
comparable, the decline in Canada would be due, I guess, to a growing
number of old people in a more settled population. Canada's rate might go
positive again as Internet usage on mobile phones grows.
The PC/mobile phone just about brings to an end the long line of new
consumer goods that have swept through populations from top to bottom in
the roughly 1780-1980 period and sustained the industrial-consumerist
revolution. From now on we're largely replete with goods -- time-wise,
space-wise, sensory-wise (apart from embellishments and fashion
replacements). We are trapped in the constraints of a mass urbanized
society. Advanced economies in recent decades have only been (precariously)
maintained by the massive growth of credit. . . . which, since 2008/9, is
now in steep decline! Interesting! What goes now? Inflation or deflation?
If we are to adjust in even a halfway humanitarian way to a no-growth
scenario in the coming decades then we are going to need a major
financial/currency reform pretty soon, to be followed (inevitably more
leisurely) by administrative/political reform..
Keith
At 05:57 02/08/2010 +0200, you wrote:
Peter, thanks for the reference...
But the interesting thing I was pointing to, i.e. that Internet use in
Canada seems to have been going DOWN is apparently confirmed by the Stats
Can data at least in comparison to the ITU data for 2008! (there being no
comparable Stats Can data for '08.
M
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Timusk [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 5:47 AM
To: 'Michael Gurstein'; 'CRACIN Canada discussion'; 'RE-DESIGNING WORK,
INCOME DISTRIBUTION,EDUCATION'
Subject: RE: [CommunityInformaticsCanada] Hmmmm....
Have you checked the Canadian Internet Use Survey for 2009?
English
<http://www.statcan.gc.ca/daily-quotidien/100510/dq100510a-eng.htm>http://www.statcan.gc.ca/daily-quotidien/100510/dq100510a-eng.htm
French
<http://www.statcan.gc.ca/daily-quotidien/100510/dq100510a-fra.htm>http://www.statcan.gc.ca/daily-quotidien/100510/dq100510a-fra.htm
The figure there is 80% not 74.9
Also you are using different sources which is sure to set up an
un-comparability aspect to these tables.
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael
Gurstein
Sent: August-01-10 10:51 PM
To: 'CRACIN Canada discussion'; 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME
DISTRIBUTION,EDUCATION'
Subject: [CommunityInformaticsCanada] Hmmmm....
Internet Usage and Population Growth: CANADA
<http://www.internetworldstats.com/am/ca.htm>http://www.internetworldstats.com/am/ca.htm
YEAR
Population
Users
% Penet.
Usage Source
2000
31,496,800
12,700,000
40.3 %
<http://www.itu.int/>ITU
2003
32,050,369
20,450,000
63.8 %
<http://www.c-i-a.com/>C.I.Almanac
2005
32,440,970
21,900,000
67.5 %
<http://www.c-i-a.com/>C.I.Almanac
2008
33,212,696
28,000,000
84.3 %
<http://www.itu.int/>I.T.U.
2009
33,487,208
25,086,000
74.9 %
<http://www.itu.int/>I.T.U.
Internet Usage and Population Growth: USA
<http://www.internetworldstats.com/am/us.htm>http://www.internetworldstats.com/am/us.htm
YEAR
Population
Users
% Pop.
Broadband
Usage Source
2000
281,421,906
124,000,000
44.1 %
n/a
<http://www.itu.int/>ITU
2001
285,317,559
142,823,008
50.0 %
n/a
<http://www.itu.int/>ITU
2002
288,368,698
167,196,688
58.0 %
n/a
<http://www.itu.int/>ITU
2003
290,809,777
172,250,000
59.2 %
n/a
<http://www.itu.int/>ITU
2004
293,271,500
201,661,159
68.8 %
n/a
<http://www.nielsen-online.com/>Nielsen Online
2005
299,093,237
203,824,428
68.1 %
n/a
<http://www.nielsen-online.com/>Nielsen Online
2007
301,967,681
212,080,135
70.2 %
n/a
<http://www.nielsen-online.com/>Nielsen Online
2008
303,824,646
220,141,969
72.5 %
n/a
<http://www.nielsen-online.com/>Nielsen Online
2009
307,212,123
227,719,000
74.1 %
n/a
<http://www.nielsen-online.com/>Nielsen Online
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