Hi Peter, Yes, of course you are right but the overall issue and the numbers would seem to suggest some anomalies which would be interesting to explore and fascinating if they were to prove to be correct. Mike
-----Original Message----- From: Peter Timusk [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 6:23 AM To: 'Michael Gurstein'; 'CRACIN Canada discussion'; 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION,EDUCATION' Subject: RE: [CommunityInformaticsCanada] Hmmmm.... Actually you have to know the amount of error of each measure to see if there is a true difference. Also what defines "use" in both survey's? Peter who is statistically gifted although sort of average. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Gurstein Sent: August-01-10 11:58 PM To: 'Peter Timusk'; 'CRACIN Canada discussion'; 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION,EDUCATION' Subject: RE: [CommunityInformaticsCanada] Hmmmm.... Peter, thanks for the reference... But the interesting thing I was pointing to, i.e. that Internet use in Canada seems to have been going DOWN is apparently confirmed by the Stats Can data at least in comparison to the ITU data for 2008! (there being no comparable Stats Can data for '08. M -----Original Message----- From: Peter Timusk [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 5:47 AM To: 'Michael Gurstein'; 'CRACIN Canada discussion'; 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION,EDUCATION' Subject: RE: [CommunityInformaticsCanada] Hmmmm.... Have you checked the Canadian Internet Use Survey for 2009? English http://www.statcan.gc.ca/daily-quotidien/100510/dq100510a-eng.htm French http://www.statcan.gc.ca/daily-quotidien/100510/dq100510a-fra.htm The figure there is 80% not 74.9 Also you are using different sources which is sure to set up an un-comparability aspect to these tables. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Gurstein Sent: August-01-10 10:51 PM To: 'CRACIN Canada discussion'; 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION,EDUCATION' Subject: [CommunityInformaticsCanada] Hmmmm.... Internet Usage and Population Growth: CANADA http://www.internetworldstats.com/am/ca.htm YEAR Population Users % Penet. Usage Source 2000 31,496,800 12,700,000 40.3 % <http://www.itu.int/> ITU 2003 32,050,369 20,450,000 63.8 % <http://www.c-i-a.com/> C.I.Almanac 2005 32,440,970 21,900,000 67.5 % <http://www.c-i-a.com/> C.I.Almanac 2008 33,212,696 28,000,000 84.3 % <http://www.itu.int/> I.T.U. 2009 33,487,208 25,086,000 74.9 % <http://www.itu.int/> I.T.U. Internet Usage and Population Growth: USA http://www.internetworldstats.com/am/us.htm YEAR Population Users % Pop. Broadband Usage Source 2000 281,421,906 124,000,000 44.1 % n/a <http://www.itu.int/> ITU 2001 285,317,559 142,823,008 50.0 % n/a <http://www.itu.int/> ITU 2002 288,368,698 167,196,688 58.0 % n/a <http://www.itu.int/> ITU 2003 290,809,777 172,250,000 59.2 % n/a <http://www.itu.int/> ITU 2004 293,271,500 201,661,159 68.8 % n/a <http://www.nielsen-online.com/> Nielsen Online 2005 299,093,237 203,824,428 68.1 % n/a <http://www.nielsen-online.com/> Nielsen Online 2007 301,967,681 212,080,135 70.2 % n/a <http://www.nielsen-online.com/> Nielsen Online 2008 303,824,646 220,141,969 72.5 % n/a <http://www.nielsen-online.com/> Nielsen Online 2009 307,212,123 227,719,000 74.1 % n/a <http://www.nielsen-online.com/> Nielsen Online
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