Sorry but this is my last post about this. Your very assumptions are the same as the people who came here. Your self righteousness means that when someone disagrees with you on anything the result is a withering attack. We have our version of that but we don't go into your house and say that it's OK for us to live there in spite of what you think. Your story about production and predator is not new and most of all it's not new in its self righteousness. It's what made the Swedes in Minnesota hang the Sioux chiefs with impunity. It's what made the South Carolina brigade commit massacre on whole communities when some farmer had lost his cow on Indian Land. It's what makes it OK that Buddhists and Amish settle on sacred Salish land today (see NYTimes).
And most of all its what tears in the minds of Indian people who have lost their way through Christian myths that bear no relationship to the whispers in their brain from the past. Your assumptions are the problem. The base rules of your existence are the same rules that made it OK for people to come here and do what they did. Nothing that you have said is different from what I've heard from all of the other Christian Europeans. Islam and Christianity are no different and their Grandfather religion doesn't proselytize although their laity have a strong dose of self-righteous ignorance as well in their stories about monotheism. Capitalism insists that the owners of complex perceptivity (the Secular abstract arts) are the elite of society. The answer to underclass culture is religion. That is as far away from who we are as another planet. This is useless. Learn about yourself before you preach to the world and learn for your God's sake learn what you have in common with the Spanish and the English. The preach the same heart that they used except they drove off the waste of their system to our nations. We have our own problems here with an arrogant wimp President and the same unconscious European system in place as murdered our ancestors in the beginning and blamed it on their self righteous God. I have nothing more to do with anyone who preaches such nonsense whether they stayed home or not. REH -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christoph Reuss Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 10:04 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Futurework] Reality based business REH wrote: > I choose only to say that I see no reason to go to Europe to hear what I'm > reading on this list. I've heard it and read it from five hundred years of > contact and I see no reason to subject anyone to it. Least of all me. > It's the same old stuff that caused 98 million people to die. As far as my writing on this list is concerned, your judgement is unfair and simply not true (but upside-down). I tried to explain to you that especially in non-imperialist parts of Europe (from which I seem to be the only listmember), many Europeans sympathize with Indian culture and sustainability practices. And with a bit of open-mindedness, you could have figured out that that group includes me. (It should be clear that I only sympathize with the Producer components of Indian culture and reject Predator components (esoterics, shamanism), but I do the same with all cultures, so you can't complain about discrimination. I'm an "equal-opportunity offender" in terms of criticizing Predators.) But instead of welcoming these allies in Europe and being glad that you heard they exist, your hatred and prejudice against Europeans is so strong that you refuse to even acknowledge their existence -- you prefer to stick to your dogma that Europeans are inherently bad. The Producer-led society that I envision would never have killed 98m (nor even 1m) Indians. It would have shared and combined the agricultural and technical advances of Native America and Europe for the common good. There would be no reservations in the first place. Imagine the prosperity and happiness in such a world, and compare it to the desperate misery and "all against all" in your America (past+present), including NYC. > I think the > few of us left have the right to a little peace and grief. You would find this in parts of Europe rather than in NYC. > We don't need > to vacation there and spend our money. We have our own mountains. I didn't suggest you come to Europe for the mountains, but to meet people who are different from your stereotype. But with such a closed mind and persistent dogma, this proposal may indeed be futile. That's not the fault of these Europeans, however. You have been brainwashed too much by zionist PR, in which all Europeans are evil (except for the Chosen OnesĀ, of course) -- smearing the non-imperialist Europeans as nazis. Ironic #4, because you ignore the crucial zionist role in raping your people. But I can understand your choice of ignorance, because talking about that role would end your NYC career immediately & send you back to the mountains. Or worse. Chris ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SpamWall: Mail to this addy is deleted unread unless it contains the keyword "igve". _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [email protected] https://lists.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [email protected] https://lists.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework
