-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christoph Reuss Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 3:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Futurework] The beginning of the end of the Euro
Ed Davey wrote: > I know you and Ray have issues, but I can't let you away with the > 'newagefraud' implication. The website referenced is an activist native > site aimed at exposing New Age frauds. Yes, and REH is at the receiving end. >> Ray and the forum moderator have different outlooks on the rules of being a true Indian as far as I can read. The moderator of the list has a narrower point of view, whereas Ray appears to be more open. Something like the rigidity of the true believer versus the nuanced perspective of the artist. > And as for Ray not being an Indian, You didn't read exactly what I wrote. >> You wrote: ' REH is a zionist hatemonger posing as an Indian." > Can we please take a time out from the bickering? Why didn't you speak up when he called me a pig for stating facts? >> I guess I hoped that it would not become another big issue between the two of you. > There are real issues > that need discussing because the real bad guys are laughing all the way to > the bank and the rest of us are just hanging on. I agree. The real bad guys are Predators (whom REH keeps defending), and they're laughing about REH's divisive hate speech against certain ethnic groups, which is a classic Predator method. E.g. in this thread, the real issue is not whether Europe deserves to be "broken up and deconstructed", as REH gleefully and hatefully put it, but which forces are behind the causes & accelerators of the deconstruction, and how they could be stopped. >> When my son moved to Switzerland, one of his first observations was that the Swiss had a problem with humorous irony. QED. You do realize that Ray in no way wants the European experiment to end. What you have there is a new house on a hill for many of us in North America who look on what we are becoming, especially many Canadians. It is why there is a lot of emigration to Europe - you represent hope for a better way. His dig was that the Swiss did manage to profit from the ceaseless wars by first being brokers between France and the Holy Roman Empire and then by controlling the movement of goods from Italy to northern Europe, and then by being the bank of final settlement. You must admit that there was lots of money to be made. I have often tried to discuss real issues here, but what comes back too often is refusals to answer questions, lame excuses or outright name-calling. I'd suggest your complaints should rather focus on that. >> Your contributions over the years have for the most part have been well received and appreciated from my perspective. However, recently, you have given yourself over to two themes as far as I can see: an ongoing rant about predators, which does little to address how we move from here unless you are channeling Brecht; 'We want our revolution, now.' and your persistent, festering feud with Ray. >> As to my complaint, it was not that, but rather an appeal for civility. It seems that every post is becoming a chance to rail against whatever Ray says. I know you are a better person than to reduce yourself to that. And I hope to appeal in a like manner to Ray when I have formulated an appropriate entreaty. Regards, Chris >> In diesem Wetter, in diesem Braus, >> Regards, >> Ed Davey _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [email protected] https://lists.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [email protected] https://lists.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework
