Thank you Ed.

Arthur, I agree.

That aside...


Speaking from a place not so exalted as having higher education in Economics or Business Management, Political Sciences, Mathematics, the Physical Sciences or even Theology, I have been stumped, educated, enlightened but more often perplexed. Not by the knowledge contained in any of the statements and arguments (I can ask questions about those) but about the /power of the need to be right!!/

If the "higher educational system" in the "west" (based upon a European structure of thought) is meant to produce this lack of ability to /dialogue/ in order for one to achieve these "higher" credentials, then in my most humble opinion, the educational system has *failed*.

It is as if this list has developed a "mini U.N." that is echoing the strife that the world is currently feeling and some contributors continually jockey for control. These feelings of stress which might normally be contained within each person's "heart" (for lack of a better term) are, and have been seeping into each culture whereupon the crowd (or pack) mentality is growing. (I speak from the "level" of that circling pack). Wherefrom I appear to have a better view than most on this list of contributors.

I wonder how many lurkers would agree with me? How insular is this list?

This country (I mean Canada - as I am Canadian writing on a *Canadian *list) is very slow to respond to these rising symptoms. This is a "cultural trait" of Canadians. This does not mean we are /better/ people, this does not mean we are /stupid , illiterate, or uneducated/. But, though a boiler with many safety valves may weather a greater number of rises and falls of building pressure, as these valves are closed down, one-by-one, as even our government is now doing, the boiler will explode. This bottled pressure is already affecting those cultures that have clearer and more painful memories than most of the Canadian veiled sensibilities are willing to accept. The bottle that is the U.S. will explode sooner. How will this be /handled/ by the Canadian /leaders/? Will it be from the view of the "exalted position" or from the level of the pack?

Again, from my /lowly vantage point/ as (I suppose labeled as a labourer in our society), there is */no one thing that will solve this coming crisis/*.

Dialogues *must*, in positive frame of reference, *involve all aspects of the culture for whatever crisis is being discussed*, whether that be the Future of Work, the Future of the Environment or the /*Future of Mankind*/.

If that last statement appears to be one to illicit alarm, then I might add "You are behind in understanding the current global situation and the current of feeling circulating through the masses". The "natural disasters" and the lack of understanding of "humanity" in how to aid escalates these "worldwide" energetic systems of desperation and despair. Should any be seen as taking /advantage/ of these situations for personal benefit or for the benefit of their /own cultural or religious beliefs/, then their /personal heritage/ (or learned behaviour) becomes associated with their culture and */dialoguing/* becomes highly improbable to impossible.

*This world, life, and all it pertains to is a web and the "Future of Work" is only one tiny thread.* While it may be true that for lack of a thread the button fell off, if the rest of the coat is beset by moths, it is of little consequence.

In this cultural patchwork of the world (reduce it if you will to Britain, Canada, the U.S. or even Israel or China), threads are unraveling. The reasons why must be diagnosed */from all aspects/* and steps must be taken to correct the failures of the past decisions and a /*bold and new (yet old)*/ *vision* must be considered - */seriously/*. This, then *must be taken to the people* for their consideration /from the aspects of each cultural heritage/.

It has been mentioned on this list before the *PEOPLE* are inherently intelligent (at least intelligent enough to know what they need to survive in this world - if offered the chance to consider it); a pack, /gang/, /*mob*/ is an entirely different "creation". Do not be so lost in narrowness of perspective or vision to ignore this rising phenomenon, to allow its progression, to feed its wolf.

Let us expand our horizon of vision and through positive, /progressive/ thoughtfulness continue with the *full *repair of this coat.


Darryl



On 11/24/2010 8:46 AM, Ed Weick wrote:
*Amen!*
*Ed*

    ----- Original Message -----
    *From:* Arthur Cordell <mailto:[email protected]>
    *To:* 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION,EDUCATION'
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Sent:* Wednesday, November 24, 2010 9:29 AM
    *Subject:* [Futurework] Lets get back to the future of work and
    away frompushing and shoving

    I received this message from an active FWer.  And I am adding my
    own plea to FWers below.

    ========================

    Arthur,

    I won't participate in the futurework list as long as racist and
    venomous comments continue. This kind of "talk" doesn't contribute
    anything to the list but bile.

    ==========================

    My open plea to FWers.

    FW was set up to discuss the future of work but seems to go off
    track from time to time.  The conversation soon leads to
    schoolyard type of talk "I said this, no you said that...you are a
    creep, no you are a creep". Pointless schoolyard pushing and shoving.

    If people want to engage in this virtual pushing and shoving
    please do it off list.  One to one.  So that others don't have to
    be party to what are private shoving (pissing?) matches.

    I have asked individual FWers to not respond to those FWers who
    provoke in this way (you know who you are) thinking that by
    shunning those who behave this way  would cause them to change
    their ways or drift off to another list where this sort of
    behavior is tolerated.  But for whatever reason a few (you know
    who you are) seem to want to pick a fight and so things heat up.

    Now is our chance to be a self-governing group.  Let's not do or
    say anything virtually that we wouldn't say if we were talking
    face to face.

    I prize civility and exchange of ideas.  How do other FWers feel
    about this?  Suggestions and ideas welcome.

    Arthur

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