We should take a trip across the country.   I would happy to translate for
you. :>))

REH

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Thanks Ray,

The next trip in fact is south (far south to Brazil ;-)

The thing about social phenomena in China at the moment is that so much
change/development is happening in real time... Visible on the streets... 

And yes, I'm quite sure there is an Ant Tribe in the US (slackers?) but
because things are moving rather more slowly there and you have the media
fog obscuring things it may be rather more difficult to see. In China, the
(English) media is rather less subtle (more like a driving rain than a fog)
and so it is easier to raise an umbrella and see at least the outline of
things.

(I should say that having access to my son's Mandarin skills and knowledge
of contemporary China made any insight I might have had possible.

Mike


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Mike,
I just read your wonderful article.   I would be interested in such a report
from your travels in the U.S.   Your analytical intellect would make such a
report very interesting to me personally.  Also, the issue of language that
you commented on in China is not a general issue here although the same
words mean vastly different things based in colloquial realities.   We too
have our ant people here.   People with little capital, inferior to good and
even great higher education but a total lack of an ability to use
connections to create things.   I believe the last such "analysis" I read of
such "ant" people was a novel by Thomas Hardy called "Jude the Obscure".
How about it?   Turn your spotlight on the down South.

REH

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Subject: [Futurework] New Blogpost: Community Informatics in China

(Some additional thoughts/comments from my recent trip to China...
Coincidentally just published 30 minutes ago ;-)

M

http://gurstein.wordpress.com/2010/12/13/some-thoughts-on-community-informat
ics-in-china/ 

"An even more intriguing possibility would be the fusing of existing rural
(political) organizational structures with ICTs and envigorated with new
blood from the "ant tribe" and other young people with Internet and ICT
skills leading to a rural renewal, extended service delivery and both more
efficient and sustainable agricultural and SMME and SME developments.
Perhaps once the attention of the Chinese leadership shifts back from the
explosive developments in urban areas similar structural developments might
begin to be seen in rural areas and among lower income populations as well."


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