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On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Ray Harrell <[email protected]> wrote:

> Can we get a grant?
>
> REH
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael
> Gurstein
> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 1:42 PM
> To: 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION'
> Subject: Re: [Futurework] New Blogpost: Community Informatics in China
>
> There is an offer I find extremely difficult to refuse :-).
>
> M
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Harrell
> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 10:24 AM
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>
>
> We should take a trip across the country.   I would happy to translate for
> you. :>))
>
> REH
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael
> Gurstein
> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 12:33 PM
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>
> Thanks Ray,
>
> The next trip in fact is south (far south to Brazil ;-)
>
> The thing about social phenomena in China at the moment is that so much
> change/development is happening in real time... Visible on the streets...
>
> And yes, I'm quite sure there is an Ant Tribe in the US (slackers?) but
> because things are moving rather more slowly there and you have the media
> fog obscuring things it may be rather more difficult to see. In China, the
> (English) media is rather less subtle (more like a driving rain than a fog)
> and so it is easier to raise an umbrella and see at least the outline of
> things.
>
> (I should say that having access to my son's Mandarin skills and knowledge
> of contemporary China made any insight I might have had possible.
>
> Mike
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Harrell
> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 7:51 AM
> To: 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION,EDUCATION'
> Subject: Re: [Futurework] New Blogpost: Community Informatics in China
>
>
> Mike,
> I just read your wonderful article.   I would be interested in such a
> report
> from your travels in the U.S.   Your analytical intellect would make such a
> report very interesting to me personally.  Also, the issue of language that
> you commented on in China is not a general issue here although the same
> words mean vastly different things based in colloquial realities.   We too
> have our ant people here.   People with little capital, inferior to good
> and
> even great higher education but a total lack of an ability to use
> connections to create things.   I believe the last such "analysis" I read
> of
> such "ant" people was a novel by Thomas Hardy called "Jude the Obscure".
> How about it?   Turn your spotlight on the down South.
>
> REH
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael
> Gurstein
> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 4:20 PM
> To: 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION'
> Subject: [Futurework] New Blogpost: Community Informatics in China
>
> (Some additional thoughts/comments from my recent trip to China...
> Coincidentally just published 30 minutes ago ;-)
>
> M
>
>
> http://gurstein.wordpress.com/2010/12/13/some-thoughts-on-community-informat
> ics-in-china/<http://gurstein.wordpress.com/2010/12/13/some-thoughts-on-community-informat%0Aics-in-china/>
>
> "An even more intriguing possibility would be the fusing of existing rural
> (political) organizational structures with ICTs and envigorated with new
> blood from the "ant tribe" and other young people with Internet and ICT
> skills leading to a rural renewal, extended service delivery and both more
> efficient and sustainable agricultural and SMME and SME developments.
> Perhaps once the attention of the Chinese leadership shifts back from the
> explosive developments in urban areas similar structural developments might
> begin to be seen in rural areas and among lower income populations as
> well."
>
>
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