> So, yes, I think that foreign ownership carries with it costs.while it 
> brings some benefits.

You don't say how you regard the balance or trade-offs between the two.

===============

I would have voted for more control over foreign investments and allowed
those that actually provided a net benefit for Canada.

I did a report for the Science Council years ago on this.  I interviewed the
CEO of the Canadian operation and interviewed the person to whom they
reported abroad.  Same for head of production, marketing and R and D.  Did
this wherever it was possible to do so.  Results were interesting and
astonishing.  In many cases the Canadian branch plant president with large
office, large staff etc., reported to a very junior person at head office.
One case in point.  The pres of a Canadian pharmaceutical company reported
to someone in NY who was responsible for Canada and South America.  Imagine
my surprise when this junior person with a small office, maybe a cubicle was
the person overseeing the Can operation.

The R and D was even more interesting.  I found that a Can plant with R and
D operations next door didn't even speak to each other.  The head of R and D
only reported to the operations abroad.  The lab had a global mandate to do
a certain thing but it was part of a global MNC.  While it was in Canada for
grants and other reasons it could have been abroad.  Employed Canadians, yes
but very little else to do with Canada.

I could go on and on.  Subtle losses with foreign ownership.  Often hard to
measure but there nonetheless.  

The game was over when Mulroney said "Canada is open for business".  FTA and
NAFTA also helped to seal things.  

Lots to talk about.  

Arthur


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Arthur wrote:

> Remember the Gray report?  Herb Gray's report that led to the
> establishment of FIRA.(foreign investment review agency)
>
> I did most of the R and D material for that report.

Cool.

> So, yes, I think that foreign ownership carries with it costs.while
> it brings some benefits.

You don't say how you regard the balance or trade-offs between the
two.


Jim Stanford, in the Globe & Mail:

  + More than half of Canada's incoming foreign investment is in the
    mining, oil and gas, and primary metals industries (such as
    nickel, aluminum and steel). And foreign hunger in those sectors
    explains most of the recent surge in foreign control in Canada. In
    this regard, incoming foreign investment is only reinforcing
    Canada's status as a resource supplier. That's much different from
    European countries, where incoming foreign investment is
    concentrated in high-tech, value-added industries.

  + Canadian companies, of course, also invest abroad in their own
    foreign subsidiaries.  Since 1997, the book value of Canadian
    corporate investments abroad has exceeded the book value of
    foreign direct investment in Canada. That net balance has eroded
    somewhat in recent years (due to mega-takeovers of Alcan, Stelco,
    Inco and others), but Canada is still slightly in the black. Some
    commentators (such as the University of Calgary's Jack Mintz) thus
    conclude that Canada has nothing to fear from foreign investment,
    since we're getting as much action abroad as we are giving up at
    home.

  + But the foreign investment that leaves Canada looks very different
    from the foreign investment that enters. Most Canadian-owned
    foreign direct investment abroad is in the financial sector. And
    80 per cent of the new foreign investment that's headed out in the
    past five years is in banking and finance.

  + In other words, the overall apparent balance in Canadian foreign
    investment relationships hides some important structural
    imbalances. Canada has been ceding ownership over resource
    industries, offset in the statistics by the increasing global
    reach of our big banks.

  + Without those banks, Canada's foreign investment position would be
    much bleaker. If we consider only the non-financial portion of the
    economy (that is, the economy that produces real goods and
    services, rather than trading in paper assets), Canada's net
    foreign investment position is worse (minus 10 per cent of GDP)
    than at any time since the 1970s -- when the Trudeau government
    first created the Foreign Investment Review Agency.

 
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/opinion/a-deliberate-strategic-
approach-to-foreign-investment/article1795590/print/

So foreign entities with no reason to hold a high priority for
Canada's interests (or those of a Canadian region) own heaps of
nickel, aluminum, oil and coal (if not potash), while we own various
financial instruments or foreign entities that, in turn, own
financial instruments.

Financial instruments are consentual abstractions, fictions, whose
fictional nature can emerge suddenly and massively subsequent to a
tiny crack in the requisite consentuality. Nickel, oil and potash are
real and tangible.


- Mike

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