MessageI agree. But watching a football or hockey game tells us a lot about what we are and what we may have work hard to resolve.
Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: Arthur Cordell To: 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION,EDUCATION' Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Futurework] FW: Blogpost: Wikileaks,Open Information and Effective Use: Exploringthe Limits of Open Government Perhaps better that people work out their aggressions both from the stands and on the field in this way. Better than going to war and/or throwing bombs at each other. This may be a socially adaptive process that deals with aggressive behavior. arthur From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ed Weick Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 9:28 AM To: RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION Subject: Re: [Futurework] FW: Blogpost: Wikileaks, Open Information and Effective Use: Exploring the Limits of Open Government Nice thoughts, Natalia, but I'm afraid we are what we are. Could I indeed share my meditations with beasts like Hitler or Stalin or with all those butchers who escalated simple ideas into profound human tragedies? I don't think so. Again, we are what we are. Having nothing better to do, I watched the Rose Bowl game yesterday. At one level of interpretation, that of the huge crowd watching from the stands, it was a demonstration of supreme athletic skill. At another level, it had to be seen as formalized brutality. Young male hominids rushing at each other, attempting to crush each other. Or take hockey, in which fist-fights and injuries are "part of the game". We are what we are, and there are many people on this earth with whom I would rather not be connected. But do have a good year. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: D and N To: RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION,EDUCATION Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [Futurework] FW: Blogpost: Wikileaks, Open Information and Effective Use: Exploring the Limits of Open Government Believing we are all connected can be both a matter of faith and a matter of science. When individuals share such stories, we know we are all part of one experience. Thank you, Ray. May we all collectively direct our meditations towards a better nurtured and educated future world. May we realize that our lack of confidence to overcome such injustice is but arrogantly imagined--that we, in fact, do not expect enough of our ability to effect change. With a unified vision, we can reclaim sanity, restore and eventually leave a world we proudly leave to our children. To all, a healthy New Year, replete with the grace and vitality of a healing world. Natalia On 1/1/2011 4:56 PM, Ray Harrell wrote: This is what it's all about. When I was in college, the ministers in the Presbyterian churches in Tulsa, Oklahom would preach about how the news always spoke of American dead and that others were less important and that this was wrong! In a nation that parades religion around as a requirement for office, there is bloody little listening to it. Thank you Natalia for this statement. In 1994 I directed a Gypsy Carmen that was about the Gypsy Holocaust during WWII [at LaMama theater here in New York City]. I kept a picture of bodies at the base of a waterfall in Rwanda in the front of my score, floating like logs, to remind me that it was and would continue in the fabric of humanity. Later it would be a child in Iraq during the American Master's Arts Festival. From Vietnam, and my friend Kim Phuc running down the road screaming from the Napalm, to the present time when the agent orange still ravages the newborns of Vietnam we seem stuck in a pattern of horror unbelieved and unimagined. When America invaded Iraq, Kim sat in the corner of a Catskill mountain cabin and said "I can't believe they're doing it again" as she wept bitterly. That was the last time I saw Kim. Thank you again Mike and Natalia for your truth. REH It makes blood boil for anyone who has toiled through the reports of collateral damage of about 5 million Iraqis, which includes over one million dead, 1million plus widows, and 4.5 million displaced. No infrastructure, little food or potable water, and depleted uranium soil for half a million years to come. The innocents arrested and tortured, whose numbers so far outweigh the numbers killed on 9/11 by non-Iraqis, that one has no choice but to conclude the US doesn't give a damn about collateral damage. Nor do the sick soldiers who execute these atrocities, nor do any of the Americans who supported this war. No one is so stupid as to think that the loss was entirely American, and where there remains such posturing, I'm sure it could be permanently scared out of them with a little bit of America's own water-boarding treatments. America and her government had this coming, for the sake of accountability, just as all other potentially damaging leaks change the playing field to one of greater need for responsible actions. The internet is being used responsibly where governments, military and industry are trying to keep secret their blundering and misguided dealings. Media, most often controlled, is looking bad and irresponsible too, and rightly so. Just for Iraq alone they should have lost their jobs. And still, having today realized how swept up they became in Bush's bandwagon to wealth, they would never have the nerve to do what Assange did in any format. If not Assange, then who? Neither government, military nor Multi-National would ever risk such openness because integrity is what the wage earners are supposed to possess, not the world leaders. Certainly not those in media we hope will at least expose profit in deceit. Natalia _______________________________________________Futurework mailing [email protected]https://lists.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [email protected] https://lists.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [email protected] https://lists.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework
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