Hi Ed, Arthur,

Probably most on the list have been to a pro ball game. What is astonishing, even to the least of fans, is the energy coursing through the excited crowd, and how one is impacted by it. It is not necessary for all of our thoughts to be on the same wave length to be affected. According to TM-Sidhi meditators, the square root of one percent of the population is sufficient to affect change. That's the idea, and was the number behind the documented meditations by experienced meditators in Washington in the 90's, who contributed, statistically, to a markedly diminished time frame of violence. It only takes a certain percentage of a unified population to achieve a desired effect.

I brought this up before when discussing the book /*Manual For A Perfect Government*/, by by John Hagelin, Ph. D., who discusses the theory behind adapting the laws of nature to bring success to government. Hagelin is the renowned quantum physicist and '"superstring" theorist. I remember Ed, at the time, thought that trying to reflect nature's laws was nice, as well, but didn't think it could fly. Yet, perhaps one day soon we shall find meditation increasingly and commonly taught in schools, and might marvel that the next generation of students will be able to come together in thought to affect change. Better than being inundated by military seduction and currency market studies.

I wouldn't say that one can actually share so-called 'evil' thoughts. There's nothing real to share, but if so possible, that would have to be a matter of wanting such a connection for the purpose of privilege, power over. All based in insanity. Like in some Voodoo, or in the extreme, Stockholm syndrome effect, the latter being fear-based self-preservation. If it's born in conscious desire to achieve an end, then we have a choice about whose thoughts we connect with in order to achieve a unified effect.

*Natalia*

On 1/2/2011 8:28 AM, Ed Weick wrote:
I agree. But watching a football or hockey game tells us a lot about what we are and what we may have work hard to resolve.
Ed

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    Perhaps better that people work out their aggressions both from
    the stands and on the field in this way.  Better than going to war
    and/or throwing bombs at each other.  This may be a socially
    adaptive process that deals with aggressive behavior.

    arthur

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    Nice thoughts, Natalia, but I'm afraid we are what we are.  Could
    I indeed share my meditations with beasts like Hitler or Stalin or
    with all those butchers who escalated simple ideas into profound
    human tragedies?  I don't think so.  Again, we are what we are.

    Having nothing better to do, I watched the Rose Bowl game
    yesterday.  At one level of interpretation, that of the huge crowd
    watching from the stands, it was a demonstration of supreme
    athletic skill.  At another level, it had to be seen as formalized
    brutality.  Young male hominids rushing at each other, attempting
    to crush each other.  Or take hockey, in which fist-fights and
    injuries are "part of the game".  We are what we are, and there
    are many people on this earth with whom I would rather not be
    connected.

    But do have a good year.

    Ed

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        Believing we are all connected can be both a matter of faith
        and a matter of science. When individuals share such stories,
        we know we are all part of one experience. Thank you, Ray.

        May we all collectively direct our meditations towards a
        better nurtured and educated future world. May we realize that
        our lack of confidence to overcome such injustice is but
        arrogantly imagined--that we, in fact, do not expect enough of
        our ability to effect change.  With a unified vision, we can
        reclaim sanity, restore and eventually leave a world we
        proudly leave to our children.

        To all, a healthy New Year, replete with the grace and
        vitality of a healing world.

        Natalia



        On 1/1/2011 4:56 PM, Ray Harrell wrote:

        This is what it's all about.    When I was in college, the
        ministers in the Presbyterian churches in Tulsa, Oklahom would
        preach about how the news always spoke of American dead and
        that others were less important and that this was wrong!    In
        a nation that parades religion around as a requirement for
        office, there is bloody little listening to it.

        Thank you Natalia for this statement.   In 1994 I directed a
        Gypsy Carmen that was about the Gypsy Holocaust during WWII
        [at LaMama theater here in New York City].   I kept a picture
        of bodies at the base of a waterfall in Rwanda in the front of
        my score, floating like logs, to remind me that it was and
        would continue in the fabric of humanity.     Later it would
        be a child in Iraq during the American Master's Arts
        Festival.     From Vietnam, and my friend Kim Phuc running
        down the road screaming from the Napalm, to the present time
        when the agent orange still ravages the newborns of Vietnam we
        seem stuck in a pattern of horror unbelieved and unimagined.
            When America invaded Iraq, Kim sat in the corner of a
        Catskill mountain cabin and said "I can't believe they're
        doing it again" as she wept bitterly.   That was the last time
        I saw Kim.    Thank you again Mike and Natalia for your truth.

        REH

        /It makes blood boil for anyone who has toiled through the
        reports of collateral damage of about 5 million Iraqis, which
        includes over one million dead, 1million plus widows, and 4.5
        million displaced. No infrastructure, little food or potable
        water, and depleted uranium soil for half a million years to
        come. The innocents arrested and tortured, whose numbers so
        far outweigh the numbers killed on 9/11 by non-Iraqis, that
        one has no choice but to conclude the US doesn't give a damn
        about collateral damage. Nor do the sick soldiers who execute
        these atrocities, nor do any of the Americans who supported
        this war. No one is so stupid as to think that the loss was
        entirely American, and where there remains such posturing, I'm
        sure it could be permanently scared out of them with a little
        bit of America's own water-boarding treatments. America and
        her government had this coming, for the sake of
        accountability, just as all other potentially damaging leaks
        change the playing field to one of greater need for
        responsible actions. The internet is being used responsibly
        where governments, military and industry are trying to keep
        secret their blundering and misguided dealings.

        Media, most often controlled, is looking bad and irresponsible
        too, and rightly so. Just for Iraq alone they should have lost
        their jobs. And still, having today realized how swept up they
        became in Bush's bandwagon to wealth, they would never have
        the nerve to do what Assange did in any format. If not
        Assange, then who? Neither government, military nor
        Multi-National would ever risk such openness because integrity
        is what the wage earners are supposed to possess, not the
        world leaders. Certainly not those in media we hope will at
        least expose profit in deceit.

        *Natalia*/

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