MessageBut in making profits they can screw up a one hell of a lot of lives.  
They can not only impact people locally but over wide areas, even globally, as 
in the case of the Tar Sands.  And they can buy politicians.  In the US there 
is now no limit on the extent to which they can fund candidates for political 
office.

Ed
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  From: Arthur Cordell 
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  http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/milton_friedman.html

   

  See some of his quotes.  He was against a social role for business.  Why 
should business direct some of its profits to this or that social role?  They 
weren't elected to this.  They are in business to make profits.  Full stop.

   

  arthur

   

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  But wasn't it he who said (in paraphrase) the business of business is 
business... (The business of economists is economics) ... Leave ethics to the 
little people (or some such...

   

  M

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    I think Friedman would agree.  He was against monopoly power and use of 
established positions to promote one thing or the other.

     

    His book Capitalism and Freedom which I read a long time ago I recall was 
against licensing of all kinds including medical doctors!!

     

    Arthur

     

     

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    Hmmm... What would Milton Friedman say to this?

     

    M

     

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    December 30, 2010  NY Times   (from Karen Cole's Casey Report)

    Academic Economists to Consider Ethics Code
    By SEWELL CHAN
    WASHINGTON - When the Stanford business professor Darrell Duffie co-wrote a 
book on how to overhaul Wall Street regulations, he did not mention that he 
sits on the board of Moody's, the credit rating agency. 

    As a commentator on the economy, Laura D'Andrea Tyson, a former adviser to 
President Bill Clinton who teaches in the business school at the University of 
California, Berkeley, does not usually say that she is a director of Morgan 
Stanley. 

    And the faculty Web page of Richard H. Clarida, a Columbia professor who 
was a Treasury official under President George W. Bush, omits that he is an 
executive vice president at Pimco, the giant bond fund manager. 

    Academic economists, particularly those active in policy debates in 
Washington and Wall Street, are facing greater scrutiny of their outside 
activities these days. Faced with a run of criticism, including a popular 
movie, leaders of the American Economic Association, the world's largest 
professional society for economists, founded in 1885, are considering a step 
that most other professions took a long time ago - adopting a code of ethical 
standards. 

    The proposal, which has not been announced to the public or to the 
association's 17,000 members, is partly a response to "Inside Job," a 
documentary film released in October that excoriates leading academic 
economists for their ties to Wall Street as consultants, advisers or corporate 
directors. 

    Universities and medical schools have tightened disclosure requirements and 
conflicts of interest policies for scientists, engineers and doctors in recent 
years, and the main professional associations for political scientists, 
sociologists and psychologists have all adopted ethical codes. 

    During the American Economic Association's annual meeting, in Denver next 
week, its executive committee will take up a proposal to "consider the 
association's role regarding ethical standards for economists," according to an 
internal committee agenda obtained by The New York Times. 

    The association's president, Robert E. Hall of Stanford, would not 
elaborate on the proposal or say where he stood on it. 

    "Like my predecessors, I'm skeptical that the A.E.A. is well-positioned to 
cure any ethical lapses that economists may be committing outside the A.E.A. 
itself," he wrote in an e-mail. "Still, the topic might benefit from further 
discussion within the organization." 

    The proposal is likely to raise a host of questions: Should economists be 
required merely to disclose who finances their research, as many academic 
journals already require? Should they have to reveal which corporate clients 
they advise, consult for or give speeches to? Should they even be allowed to 
serve as corporate directors and officers, as many business and finance 
professors do? 

    Some scholars say the discussion is long overdue. 

    "I'm glad the A.E.A. is taking it up," said Dale W. Jorgenson, a former 
president of the association and a longtime Harvard professor (he advised the 
undergraduate thesis of Ben S. Bernanke, now the Federal Reserve chairman). 
"I'm hoping they take an activist position." 

    Professor Jorgenson said that academic economists had fallen behind 
scholars in other fields in their attentiveness to transparency, and should 
follow the example of the biomedical sciences, where money from the private 
sector is subject to rigorous disclosure rules. But another former president of 
the association, Robert E. Lucas Jr., said universities were better suited to 
handle the matter. 

    "It's good to get this stuff out in the open, but I don't like the idea of 
the A.E.A. watching over this," said Mr. Lucas, a Nobel laureate at the 
University of Chicago. 

    Mr. Lucas added: "What disciplines economics, like any science, is whether 
your work can be replicated. It either stands up or it doesn't. Your 
motivations and whatnot are secondary." 

    Since economics emerged as a modern discipline in the late 19th century, 
its practitioners have resisted formal ethical codes, said George F. DeMartino, 
an economist at the Josef Korbel School of International Studies at the 
University of Denver. 

    In "The Economist's Oath: On the Need for and Content of Professional 
Economic Ethics," to be published in January, Mr. DeMartino describes concerns 
dating to the 1920s about the influence of business on economic research, and 
cites multiple calls within the association for a code of conduct - all of 
which have been rebuffed. 

    After one such debate in 1994, the committee concluded that it might not 
have the relevant expertise to fairly judge ethical disputes; that a fair 
mechanism to resolve complaints would be hard to establish; and that any such 
effort could result in lawsuits and prove toothless because of a lack of 
sanctions for violators. 

    "I can see the case for specific rules on conflicts of interest, but that 
doesn't begin to exhaust the ethical challenges that confront economists," Mr. 
DeMartino said. 

    What is clear is that the film has rattled the profession. 

    "You could call this the 'Inside Job' effect," said David H. Autor, an 
M.I.T. professor who is a nonvoting member of the committee but had not heard 
of the proposal. "Certainly the implication of the movie was that people were 
selling their academic reputations to further the interests of moneyed 
individuals and institutions." 

    The film is particularly critical of R. Glenn Hubbard, dean of Columbia 
Business School and a director of MetLife; Frederic S. Mishkin, a professor at 
the same school who advises investment firms; and Martin S. Feldstein, a 
Harvard professor who resigned from the board of the American International 
Group, the insurance giant, after it was bailed out by the Fed and the 
Treasury. 

    All have held top posts. Professor Feldstein was chairman of the Council of 
Economic Advisers under President Ronald Reagan, a job Mr. Hubbard later held 
under Mr. Bush. Professor Mishkin was a Fed governor. 

    Mr. Hubbard said the association proposal "sounds like a very good idea," 
and Professor Mishkin said: "I strongly support having the A.E.A. clarify 
standards for disclosure, because increased transparency would benefit the 
public and the economics profession." (Professor Feldstein said he could not 
discuss his work for A.I.G. on the advice of lawyers.) 

    A recent paper by Gerald Epstein and Jessica Carrick-Hagenbarth of the 
University of Massachusetts, Amherst, found that many financial economists who 
weighed in on the Wall Street overhaul signed into law in July did not 
prominently disclose potential conflicts of interest. 

    As an example they cited Mr. Duffie, who like Mr. Mishkin was an author of 
"The Squam Lake Report," a volume of recommendations on financial reform that 
was published in June. 

    "Looking back on it, it was probably an oversight not to say that we not 
only talk to regulators but have affiliations with players in the financial 
services industry," Mr. Duffie said. 

    Others said they saw no problem with their multiple roles. Professor 
Clarida, of Columbia, said his experiences at Treasury and Pimco "enhance my 
academic work and my effectiveness in the classroom." 

    Ms. Tyson, who is an unpaid adviser to the Obama administration, said, 
"Provided everything is disclosed, there is no reason why an economist who 
happens to have associations in the private sector should be precluded from 
speaking out on policy issues." 

    But while many economists disclose corporate work on their Web sites, 
others do not. Professor Clarida provided a copy of his résumé that lists his 
work for Pimco, but his Web page has an older version that does not. 

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