Interesting Keith, but despite the problem of their written language, the 
Chinese do seem to have been able to come up with inventions in the past.  I 
recalled reading something about them having invented gunpowder, so I looked 
that up on Wikipedia and to my surprise found that they had not only invented 
gunpowder, but a host of other things:

China has been the source of many significant inventions, including the Four 
Great Inventions of ancient China: papermaking, the compass, gunpowder, and 
printing (both woodblock and movable type). The list below contains these and 
other inventions.

The Chinese invented technologies involving mechanics, hydraulics, and 
mathematics applied to horology,metallurgy, astronomy, agriculture, 
engineering, music theory, craftsmanship, nautics, and warfare. By the Warring 
States Period (403-221 BC), they had advanced metallurgic technology, including 
the blast furnace and cupola furnace, while the finery forge and puddling 
process were known by the Han Dynasty(202 BC - AD 220). A sophisticated 
economic system in China gave birth to inventions such as paper money during 
the Song Dynasty (960-1279). The invention of gunpowder by the 10th century led 
to an array of inventions such as the fire lance, land mine, naval mine, hand 
cannon, exploding cannonballs, multistage rocket, and rocket bombs with 
aerodynamic wings and explosive payloads. With the navigational aid of the 
11th-century compass and ability to steer at high sea with the 1st-century 
sternpost rudder, premodern Chinese sailors sailed as far as East Africa and 
Egypt.[1][2][3] In water-powered clockworks, the premodern Chinese had used the 
escapement mechanism since the 8th century and the endless power-transmitting 
chain drive in the 11th century. They also made large mechanical puppet 
theaters driven by waterwheels and carriage wheels and wine-servingautomatons 
driven by paddle wheel boats. 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_inventions)

The quote mentions agriculture, but not the intensive agriculture of the rice 
paddie.  I recall reading somewhere that rice paddies were partly a response to 
the need to feed vast armies.

Despite the problems raised by their written language, the Chinese must have 
had some way of encapsulating their inventions because they were quite widely 
used. And in the case of Europe, it wasn't so much language that was essential 
to the spread of ideas.  Rather it was the invention of the printing press and 
the movement away from Latin to the vernacular that swept ideas across the 
continent. 

If their written language presents a problem currently, there is good reason to 
believe that the Chinese will have no problem in adapting.  A few days ago, I 
saw a TV interveiw with Justin Yinfu Lin, Chief Economist of the World Bank.  
The interview was in English, and Yinfu Lin's responses were in English, but in 
an English so thick that I had a lot of trouble understanding what he was 
saying.  However, he knew exactly what he was saying.

My point is that if there is a problem, I'm sure that the Chinese will find a 
way around it.

Ed



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Keith Hudson 
  To: RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, ,EDUCATION 
  Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 5:44 AM
  Subject: [Futurework] Why China won't win in this century


  The reason why China will never win hands-down in its current economic war 
with America is the same as why Japan didn't succeed in the 1980s when all were 
expecting that its corporations and banks would eat America up (Americans 
included). The reason is that both countries are good at copying ideas and 
technologies; neither is good at inventing new ones.

  It's their written language that's the main part of their problem. It's 
non-phonetic. It means that in order to acquire a basic vocabulary -- of, say, 
2,000 or 3,000 words (the content of their average newspapers) -- children have 
to learn uniquely-shaped characters (whole words) which have no, or very 
little, relationship with their utterance. A Chinese or Japanese child can 
learn to speak his language quite as readily as children do the world over, but 
learning how to read or write each individual word takes many years. And 
there's only one way, unfortunately for children, and that's by rote learning. 
And thousands of hours of rote learning over many years under the strict 
discipline of  slave-masters in the schoolroom doesn't do anything for the 
creativity of young minds -- or for older minds for that matter because the 
basic mental skills are aptitudes are thoroughly laid down before puberty.

  The Chinese and Japanese governments are well aware of the damage that rote 
learning is doing to them -- and say so quite frequently. Although both 
countries can churn out ten of thousands of science and engineering graduates 
every year, there's scarcely an independent mind among them. Independent 
'garage inventors', as we have in the West, are as rare as hen's teeth in China 
and Japan. For example, Japan has been industrialized for over a century -- 
only a decade or two less than other Western countries -- yet it has only won 
15 Nobel prizes in the science subjects. Compare this figure with those of 
America (261), the UK (91) and Germany (88). China has only won 10! However, 
this comparison is unfair because China's have only been won since it woke up 
in the 1970s. America's number also needs to be modified because about a third 
of its prizes have been won by foreign-born scientists who became American 
citizens after migrating there.

  It's all Emperor Qin Shi Huang's fault (yes, the same as is famed for his 
terracotta army). Once Qin had conquered several countries and unified China in 
221BC, he standardized as many things as possible from weights and measures and 
currency through to the written language. All the various scholars throughout 
his empire, speaking scores of different languages (some with and some without 
a written form) were forced -- on pain of death -- to produce a composite, but 
common, written language. And this could only be non-phonetic, of course. Even 
the mighty power of Emperor Qin couldn't force millions of his subjects to 
learn a new common spoken language but he could certainly force his relatively 
few scholars to produce a new common written one. One popular penalty in those 
days was to cut someone through his midriff, mount him on a platter of hot tar 
and take him around the town, gesticulating and shouting before he expired.

  And herein lies a paradox, because the industrial revolution in Europe would 
never have happened without starting from a basic stock of scores of 
innovations -- such as canal locks, differential gears, sowing grain in rows 
and so forth -- that had drifted in from China along the Great Silk Road over a 
period of centuries. However, this doesn't signify that the Chinese had been 
more inventive than Europeans. But its common written language had meant that 
when one innovation -- say a wheelbarrow (very important indeed for both China 
and Europe) -- had been invented by a genius in one tucked-away corner of 
China, then the local mandarin could write and tell hundreds more all about 
this wonderful new device.

  But what once had been an accelerator for both Chinese and European 
civilizations actually became a retardant for China when the Western 
Enlightenment and scientific revolution stirred into life in the 1600s and 
1700s. The Chinese had no way of encapsulating these new ideas. A Chinese 
mandarin visiting Europe in, say, the 1700s or 1800s, and learning about the 
new exciting scientific ideas (if he'd learned Latin or another European 
language of course) had no way of disseminating them widely in China because 
there he had no method of writing them down in Chinese words that would have 
been instantly recognizable by fellow Chinese scholars or engineers. He could 
only convey the new ideas vaguely by speaking of them face-to-face when he 
returned home. 

  Thus Japan (which had inherited thousands of Chinese words) and China were 
left behind by the industrial revolution in England, Germany and America. They 
didn't begin to catch up in earnest until the the 1870s (the Meiji Revolution) 
and the 1970s (the Deng Xiaoping Revolution) respectively. And this is still -- 
largely -- where they are today. Both the Chinese and Japanese governments are 
trying to phoneticize their written languages but only very slowly, such is the 
cultural conservatism of two thousands years to contend with. 

  What might be significant in China (though not yet happening in Japan), is 
that all their college and university entrants have to learn spoken and written 
English these days. All their top government officials speak English and most 
business and science faculties in their universities use English widely in 
their seminars.  Also, thousands of their brightest young post-grad scientists 
go to America or England for research experience and qualifications. Indeed, 
once they are here for a few years they become quite as inventive as Western 
scientists (if not more so when you look at the authorship of many papers in 
heavyweight subject, say genetics or particle physics). Unfortunately for the 
Chinese and Japanese governments many, if not most, of the most innovative 
scientific minds elect to stay in their adoptive countries rather than to 
return.

  But the problem is even more serious for China and Japan. Almost as important 
as are the original ideas of innovative individuals is the necessity of other 
individuals who will give a welcome to new ideas and help to develop them. And 
it's this open-minded hinterland which is still limited because of their deep, 
conservative, authoritative cultures. Goodness knows, new ideas often have a 
hard time being accepted in the West. Even here, the crazy ideas of yesteryear 
sometimes have to wait until its die-hard opponents are dead and buried and a 
brand new generation appears. Only then are the ideas seen to be not so crazy 
after all.

  There we are then. Japan came close to hollowing out America and Western 
Europe 30 years ago with its superbly made (Western-invented) products. China 
is threatening to do the same in the coming years. But the innovative momentum 
is still with the West and this sort of cultural momentum takes a century or 
two to die down -- if it ever does -- or a century to acquire -- if it ever 
does in China and Japan.

  Keith      
    

  Keith Hudson, Saltford, England http://allisstatus.wordpress.com/2011/01/
    



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