Sad but not mistaken?   Therein lies the problem.   Whether to design the
environment for the good of all or to eat it slowly like an army of
disconnected ants.   You think its sad but you do not take the Native
systems alternative seriously.   The Yonega alternative, to teach the
children to ignore their own identity and psycho-physical reality, only
works for a short part of their lives.  Once they realize they have been
tricked out of their birthright all too often the answer is to look reality
in the face and choose to leave with suicide or drugs.   No capital, no
future, no investment in a Yonega's version of success.   That's simple
basic psychology and choices that are not ir-rational but horrible.   How
could free Indian foresters want to join such a group that would propagate
such a thing as an ideal?  

The Canadian government thought that creating a reservation for the plants
and animals was a respectful alternative economic structure for people whose
systems were built on respect and balance for all of the species.   It
doesn't compute except to show that the government doesn't speak in the
language of the First Nations.  Those government folks are biased, afraid
and stress the active grammatical tense over the passive in their language
and communications.   Same here, but when we [I] speak in their language and
avoid the passive, the translation sends them away even though their
horrendous hubris results in genocide.  

Even today, I don't get materials from this list for discussion. [Gail
mentioned posts that I have not received.]  I assume its because certain
members refused to stay and deal with blunt discussion unless I was excluded
from their posts which were rife with inaccuracies and bias.   Its OK to
overwhelm another culture but its not OK for those cultures to verbally
fight back in resistance on the internet.  My childhood friends, now Elders,
ask me not to talk to their Yonega neighbors because telling them the truth
and defeating their argument just feedbacks to their having to deal with
powerful and hostile neighbors who strike out because their arguments are
irrational and they can't win them verbally.   Jesus has forgiven them but
He has left them impotent and dangerous.

REH

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ed Weick
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 7:49 AM
To: Gail Stewart; RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION
Subject: Re: [Futurework] The Way of Right Relationship

I've experienced something like that in the very remotest of northern 
communities in which people still apologized to the animals they had to kill

in order to stay alive themselves.  The people were still strongly tied into

the ecosphere and they knew it.  However, things were changing.  Kids 
learned our view of the world at school, and when they had finished their 
primary grades they were shipped out to Yellowknife or Inuvik to do high 
school.  Elders were still respected, but as icons more than as sources of 
ancient wisdom bearing on the ecosystem.

In my last visit to one of those communities, about five years ago, I stayed

with a local family.  I had work to do but found it difficult because the TV

was blaring for much of the day.  The community was close to a national park

that our government had created out of the community's ancient hunting 
lands, and tourism was expected to become a growing source of income.  The 
people still knew the land, but they expected to increasingly use it as tour

guides and not as harvesters.

Even if it was all inevitable, I found it a little sad.

Ed


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gail Stewart" <[email protected]>
To: "RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION,EDUCATION" 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 6:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Futurework] The Way of Right Relationship


>
> (Incidently but not irrelevantly, has anybody on this list ever 
> experienced
> themselves as active participant in the ecosphere, the thin skin of this
> spinning planet, among all its living inhabitants? Might you be willing to
> share something of that experience?)
>
> Regards,
>
> Gail
>
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