I repeat we do live in a democracy and if Mr. Harper gets a majority, then we go along with the decision of voters
I wonder if you would have a problem if Mr Layton got a majority of seats with something like 25 percent or so of potential voters? arthur From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Gurstein Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 2:47 PM To: [email protected]; 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION' Subject: Re: [Futurework] [Ottawadissenters] RE: FW: Fw: Defeat Harper on May 2nd - Information on strategic voting and more That's a wee bit coy.. since we have a first past the post system and a declining proportion of voters overall it would quite likely be possible for Harper to get a majority of seats in Parliament with not only not a majority of overall voters (the estimate is currently 40% as the magic number) but with something like 25% or so of potential voters! This is deeply troubling to many/most folks who are thinking about this (with less concern among those whose party happens to be on the sunny side of 40% of course) and one can only hope for a set of circumstances that would bring about a rather more "democratic" structure. (In the previous election, the Greens received 12% (?) of the votes and 0 seats, while the NDP received 17% (?) and 32 (?) seats... (doing all of this from a faultering memory... M -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Arthur Cordell Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 11:39 AM To: [email protected]; 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION' Subject: RE: [Ottawadissenters] RE: [Futurework] FW: Fw: Defeat Harper on May 2nd - Information on strategic voting and more Well we do live in a democracy and if Mr. Harper gets a majority, then we go along with the decision of voters. arthur From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Gurstein Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 2:30 PM To: [email protected]; 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION' Subject: RE: [Ottawadissenters] RE: [Futurework] FW: Fw: Defeat Harper on May 2nd - Information on strategic voting and more Yes, that is the fear! M -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Harry Pollard Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 11:18 AM To: 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION'; [email protected] Subject: [Ottawadissenters] RE: [Futurework] FW: Fw: Defeat Harper on May 2nd - Information on strategic voting and more Saw the debate between Harper and his opponents on TV. Without knowing much about contemporary Canadian politics, I thought that Harper handled himself very well - answered the questions directly and with authority. By far the best of the others was the spokesman for the New Democratic Party. He stayed good-humored and asked questions that seemed straight to the point. On the strength of this debate, I will be surprised if Harper doesn't get his majority in the election. Harry ****************************** Henry George School of Los Angeles Box 655 Tujunga CA 91042 (818) 352-4141 ****************************** From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Gurstein Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 10:46 AM To: 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION'; [email protected] Subject: [Futurework] FW: Fw: Defeat Harper on May 2nd - Information on strategic voting and more Fw: Defeat Harper on May 2nd - Information on strategic voting Thursday, April 14, 2011 3:14 PM From:"Linda Belanger" Former Nortel employees have launched their own campaign against the Conservatives, including Baird, Poilievre and Cannon. See why: http://www.silverfoxalliance.com/media_release.html <http://www.silverfoxalliance.com/media_release.html> Please get informed and vote strategically to defeat Stephen Harper on May 2nd. A few background and activist links to help with the strategic voting discussion. We need to remember that a vote for a candidate translates ultimately as a vote for the leader of the party that wins the most seats in the House of Commons -- therefore the Prime Minister. - Rabble's Election 2011 coverage: http://www.rabble.ca/rabblerouser - Catch22: http://catch22campaign.ca/profiles/blog/show?id=5139919%3ABlogPost%3A14055 <http://catch22campaign.ca/profiles/blog/show?id=5139919%3ABlogPost%3A14055&; commentId=5139919%3AComment%3A14308&xg_source=activity> &commentId=5139919%3AComment%3A14308&xg_source=activity - Vote swap: http://www.votepair.ca/tag/online-activism/ - Danny Williams' ABC (Anything But Conservative) campaign: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anything_But_Conservative - "Canada's Newest Faith-Based Political Party": "Strategic voting is probably best explained as casting a vote against a party rather than for one you support. Chances of defeating the Conservative candidate in your area are greater if everyone concentrates their efforts on electing the candidate with the best chance of winning against him. You can find out which candidate this is in your area by using: http://regressiveconservative.ca/voting-guide.php " --- - "A swing district is an area where the margin between the number of votes cast in the last election for the Conservative candidate, and the candidate with best return against them is particularly small. This is important because if the Conservative won, this is an area where overthrowing them in the next election is somewhat easier. If the Conservative lost, this district is at high risk of falling to the Conservatives next time. For this reason special effort should be taken to support the candidate with the best bet against the Conservative candidate next election." http://regressiveconservative.ca/faq.shtml - An interesting analysis: http://www.probeinternational.org/old_drupal/UrbanNewSite/strategicvoting.pd f Former Nortel employees have launched their own campaign against the Conservatives, including Baird, Poilievre and Cannon: http://www.silverfoxalliance.com/media_release.html Hope this will help jumpstart the discussion. * * * * * * * HAVEN'T DECIDED WHO TO VOTE FOR? Saturday, April 16, 2011 8:06 PM From: Gary Keenan Greetings all Very clever and informative: Check it out and forward. http://compellingcomics.justsomeguy.com/CanadaVotes2011/Canada.html "Oh Canada, we stand on guard for thee..." Remember, the barbarians are in our midst!!! G.K. * * * * * * * Elections Canada "Message Mob" http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=139940866078782 Time: Saturday, April 16 at 1:00pm - April 23 at 9:00pm Location: Canada Created By: Anna Hopkins More Info ***Please invite others in your network; let's try to reach 5000 by the end of the weekend!*** As you saw today, Elections Canada just put an end to special ballot voting stations on campuses. Given that Election Canada publicly campaigns to increase the youth vote, this is a step in the wrong directly and is bending to partisan interests and complications. I'm asking you to call Elections Canada or submit a message online, to show your support for special ballot voting stations on campuses, and to express your discontent with the change. 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