At 20:08 08/05/2011, D&N wrote:

(D&N)Thanks again, Keith,

Yes, Presidential Monetary Authority selection is a possible (say likely) conflict of interests, and would likely be further jeopardized by his or her lack of education. And I agree with you that the Federal Reserve serves no public purpose.

With respect to your comment about the record levels of unemployment and under-employment effect the Nat'l Employment Emergency Defense Act is attempting to address:

(KH) But here we also have to take into account that the industrial economy of the last 300 years is now becoming less labour-intensive from year to year due to increasing automation and (so far) redundant personnel can't be re-trained quickly enough. This is a major structural problem for which no-one or no-thing can be held primarily responsible (unless it be the ever-innovative ability of the human mind!). Even in China, with 10% p.a. GDP growth, unemployment is now growing in the prosperous coastal provinces. Not only are the 200 million temporary migratory factory workers being sent back to the rural interior but also a few million of the provinces' own graduates are without jobs (even engineering graduates!) or have to take menial ones. The great shift of low-skill employment from the West to China has now probably largely ceased and China is now beginning to face the same structural problems as the West.

Because a substantial number of jobs were lost to developing nations, and presuming nothing would be done to address that, the Act, in seeking to stimulate job growth by investing in American infrastructure, should help to stimulate a great number of jobs that would not require much retraining, and should also give rise to re-hiring of teachers, medical staff, engineers, technicians, etc., who lost jobs due to cutbacks.

Natalia

(KH) The aims as stated in the last paragraph are desirable ones and I wouldn't want to quarrel with them. But whether they would necessarily follow the passage of Kucinich's bill is another matter. Having read through the proposed National Employment Emergency Defense Act -- which is essentially about the creation of government-controlled and -directed money -- I'm afraid that I disagree with its basic premiss. This is that money itself can be the stimulant for full employment and, presumably, economic growth. Whether money is created by government (by printing) for worthy aims and/or by banks (via credit) for possible business success it still doesn't necessarily produce employment or growth. At best, it can only produce slight alleviation of unemployment (as in Roosevelt's New Deal of the 1930s); at worst, it produces inflation (in which the savings of many are wiped out, and the debts of many of the rich and comfortably-off are neutralized).

Money is only an intermediary, and the amount of it, and the value of it, is only a byproduct of the demand of consumers for particular goods and services. For full employment or for economic growth (as defined notionally by GDP) there needs to be chain of demand from the poorest to the richest. High-priced goods or services initially affordable by the rich, if mass-producible, work their way down through the social classes as they become cheaper. As some low-priced goods become affordable by the poor then they have aspirations to own and enjoy one or more items that the next higher class already has. It's a two-way chain -- goods and services working downwards, comfort and status working upwards. So long as the chain is unbroken then people of all classes will work voluntarily according to their abilities and the opportunities open to them -- that is, full employment for all able-bodied adults.

It is this sort of two-way chain which has occurred in fits and starts through all history, ever since we forsook hunter-gathering and began to be civilized (that is, living in ever-larger dense groups of people and having to modify our behaviour accordingly). When the chain stops in any particular region or civilization, or indeed goes backwards (for example, when invaded by vandals) then that culture can be locked into a particular way of life for long periods, perhaps centuries in many instances. The latest chain is, of course, the industrial revolution which I would date roughly as occurring between 1780 and 1980. I would maintain, however, that this chain has now stopped and that economic growth -- as we presently measure it -- has halted. In this view, the 2008/9 credit crunch is not so much a temporary halt in the two-way chain's progress but only one of several very weak links that must be repaired. Even if Western countries don't achieve a resumption of economic growth and remains in a new locked-in condition then several other important reforms must also be achieved for full employment quite besides the necessary stabilization of money and putting the banks and financial services (fools or crooks to a lesser or greater degree at present) in their place.

Keith


Keith Hudson, Saltford, England http://allisstatus.wordpress.com/2011/05/
   
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