MessageI suspect there are a variety of motives. For some, the people that
started it, protest was a likely motive. Someone was shot after all, perhaps
without much reason. But for the many who feel dispossesed, who have no jobs
and no strong reason to feel a connection with society and the economy, it was
a chance to show they're there. And there's always the 'turkey phenomenon'.
The excitement of it all can cause nice, ordinary guys to jump up and down and
have fun smashing things.
Ed
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From: michael gurstein
To: 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION,EDUCATION'
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Futurework] London's burning!
I'm wondering if the assault by the media (Murdoch and the media cabal) on
the left could be the reason that the violence in the UK has been nihilist
rather than having a political focus... If the (tens? of) thousands involved
are simply concerned with looting and destruction is that preferable to having
some specific (and thus negotiable and cooptable) demands...
I guess the question is whether the UK police/legal/penal system can handle
this in the short run and what the impact of a criminalized working class is on
the UK in the long run.
M
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From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of D and N
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:39 AM
To: RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION,EDUCATION
Subject: Re: [Futurework] London's burning!
Even a fox will chew off its paw to escape a trap. Can we expect anything
else from a 'base animal'.
Darryl
On 8/9/2011 6:51 AM, Arthur Cordell wrote:
I would think that the rioters also need to have the culture to organize
politically to achieve their goals.
Burning their own homes and neighbourhood is reminiscent of what happened
in Detroit and elsewhere in the US. When the riots were over the remaining
people lived in burned out areas. Period.
arthur
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Keith Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 4:43 AM
To: RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, , EDUCATION
Subject: [Futurework] London's burning!
As riots and fires continue to spring up in many areas of London, we have
already had a spate of politicians and opinion-worthies telling us that it's
evil and criminal and so forth. So far, only one person of any stature at all
has had the courage to come out with the real reason. He is Lord Harris, who
founded the nation-wide Carpetright shops as a young man. He says: "Rioters
need jobs".
Quite right. But unfortunately these thousands of young people will never
have jobs. They didn't even have them in the pre-2008 years. The present
episode of fires will no doubt burn themselves out (the pun was unavoidable I'm
afraid!), but the London rioters have already shown the Greek rioters just what
can be done if they try harder. After all, we are a much more advanced country
than Greece.
Keith
Keith Hudson, Saltford, England http://allisstatus.wordpress.com/2011/08/
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