Could we call it the crowd giving them the "Dickens?"
REH From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ed Weick Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 4:32 PM To: RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION Subject: Re: [Futurework] London's burning! I suspect there are a variety of motives. For some, the people that started it, protest was a likely motive. Someone was shot after all, perhaps without much reason. But for the many who feel dispossesed, who have no jobs and no strong reason to feel a connection with society and the economy, it was a chance to show they're there. And there's always the 'turkey phenomenon'. The excitement of it all can cause nice, ordinary guys to jump up and down and have fun smashing things. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: michael gurstein <mailto:[email protected]> To: 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION,EDUCATION' <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [Futurework] London's burning! I'm wondering if the assault by the media (Murdoch and the media cabal) on the left could be the reason that the violence in the UK has been nihilist rather than having a political focus... If the (tens? of) thousands involved are simply concerned with looting and destruction is that preferable to having some specific (and thus negotiable and cooptable) demands... I guess the question is whether the UK police/legal/penal system can handle this in the short run and what the impact of a criminalized working class is on the UK in the long run. M -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of D and N Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:39 AM To: RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION,EDUCATION Subject: Re: [Futurework] London's burning! Even a fox will chew off its paw to escape a trap. Can we expect anything else from a 'base animal'. Darryl On 8/9/2011 6:51 AM, Arthur Cordell wrote: I would think that the rioters also need to have the culture to organize politically to achieve their goals. Burning their own homes and neighbourhood is reminiscent of what happened in Detroit and elsewhere in the US. When the riots were over the remaining people lived in burned out areas. Period. arthur From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Keith Hudson Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 4:43 AM To: RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, , EDUCATION Subject: [Futurework] London's burning! As riots and fires continue to spring up in many areas of London, we have already had a spate of politicians and opinion-worthies telling us that it's evil and criminal and so forth. So far, only one person of any stature at all has had the courage to come out with the real reason. He is Lord Harris, who founded the nation-wide Carpetright shops as a young man. He says: "Rioters need jobs". Quite right. But unfortunately these thousands of young people will never have jobs. They didn't even have them in the pre-2008 years. The present episode of fires will no doubt burn themselves out (the pun was unavoidable I'm afraid!), but the London rioters have already shown the Greek rioters just what can be done if they try harder. After all, we are a much more advanced country than Greece. Keith Keith Hudson, Saltford, England http://allisstatus.wordpress.com/2011/08/ _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [email protected] https://lists.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework _____ _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [email protected] https://lists.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework
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