Who reads volume III? Me! Avid communists mostly just read the Communist Manifesto -- or just the first and last paragraphs of the CM.
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Harry Pollard <[email protected]>wrote: > Ray, > > Marx had it right in Volume III of Das Kapital ("Capitalist production as a > whole."). Not that anyone reads Volume III. Mostly, avid communists read a > condensation of Volume I and learn about the siphoning off of "surplus > value". > > In Volume III, Marx pointed out that the Industrial Revolution was financed > by the rents of the large landowners. So the capitalists - factory managers, > directors, and suchlike - were attacked but not the people who, in the > background, really owned the capital - the landlords. > > He also importantly pointed out that "surplus value" inevitably disappeared > into rents. > > But, then, as I said, who reads Volume III? > > Harry > \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ > > > On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Ray Harrell <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The Arts have been in an equilibrium depression since 1929. The problem >> of cost exceeding surplus or productivity lag is not the problem here >> however. The problem is one group of people who are feeding off of the >> rest of the world. That’s an older problem. More like the Europeans >> feeding off of the Native populations during empire. Obama and Krueger >> could do something but they would have to be revolutionaries of the type of >> the early FDR.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> REH**** >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Keith Hudson >> *Sent:* Monday, August 29, 2011 11:39 AM >> *To:* RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION >> *Subject:* Re: [Futurework] President Obama will nominate Alan Krueger >> chairman Council of Economic Advisers.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> And Alan Krueger, employment specialist though he might be, will no more >> be able to create jobs for America than Austan Goolsbee did. >> >> Most economists, politicians and senior civil servants cannot conceive of >> the possibility that most of the Western advanced world is now locked into a >> particular urban way of life in which there is no space, energy or daily use >> of time for significant new consumer products -- even if they could be >> imagined. As it is, there is nothing new on the horizon that can be remotely >> compared with the significance that the radio, car and television had. These >> are just three of the long line of unique consumer goods -- the buying power >> -- that motivated the industrial revolution of the last 300 years. During >> that period there was always a tangible item that individuals at every >> social level aspired to possess. Today, there isn't such a list. As far as >> products in daily use are concerned (repeat: in daily use) even the poorest >> in an advanced country can enjoy much the same as the richest. >> >> We've almost certainly reached a steady-state economy. It hasn't been >> planned but it's been initiated by the breakdown of the credit system. Of >> course, President Obama will never dare say so, nor will any other president >> for at least another generation. By this time, if governments are going to >> exist at all in the form that we know them today, politicians will be >> seriously thinking not how to create jobs but how to educate children and >> young people in order to share the highly specialized jobs that remain once >> our manufacturing, transport and retailing systems have become largely >> automated. >> >> Keith >> >> >> >> >> At 15:14 29/08/2011, you wrote: >> >> **** >> >> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; >> boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01CC6634.7A651840" >> Content-Language: en-us >> >> **** >> Obama to name Krueger for key economic post**** >> >> >> >> *by* msnbc.com news services • Aug. 29, 2011 Read >> Later<http://www.readability.com/articles/okbolvvf?legacy_bookmarklet=1>• >> >> Jon Roemer / Princeton >> >> President Barack Obama will nominate Princeton University’s Alan Krueger >> to be chairman of the White House Council of Economic Advisers. >> >> WASHINGTON President Barack Obama will nominate Princeton University’s >> Alan Krueger to be chairman of the White House Council of Economic Advisers, >> a White House official said Monday. >> >> If his nomination is confirmed by the Senate, Krueger will succeed Austan >> Goolsbee in the White House economic post. Goolsbee left the position >> earlier this month to return to his teaching post at the University of >> Chicago. The departure was a blow for the White House as Goolsbee had been a >> high-profile spokesman on the economy. >> >> *A labor economist, Krueger is likely to provide a voice inside the >> administration for greater action to bring down unemployment and deal with >> the problem of long-term joblessness, according to The >> WallStreet<http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44311574/ns/business/> >> 1<http://www.readability.com/articles/okbolvvf?legacy_bookmarklet=1#rdb-footnote-1>Journal. >> * >> Krueger served as assistant Treasury secretary for economic policy during >> the first two years of the Obama administration, meaning he has recently >> cleared the sometimes treacherous Senate confirmation process, the Journal >> noted. >> >> *The Krueger decision comes as Obama prepares to unveil a jobs package in >> a speech planned for shortly after the September 5 Labor Day holiday. >> * >> With U.S. unemployment at a stubbornly high 9.1 percent and amid fears the >> economy could slide back into recession, Obama is under pressure to show he >> is doing all he can to bolster growth.**** >> ------------------------------ >> >> ** ** >> References**** >> >> ** ** >> >> 1. >> ^<http://www.readability.com/articles/okbolvvf?legacy_bookmarklet=1#rdb-footnote-link-1>WallStreet<http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44311574/ns/business/>(www.msnbc.msn.com) >> ( http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44311574/ns/business/ ) **** >> >> Share >> · **** >> >> - Post to >> Twitter<http://www.readability.com/articles/okbolvvf?legacy_bookmarklet=1> >> **** >> - Post to >> Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/share.php?u=http://www.readability.com/articles/okbolvvf> >> **** >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Futurework mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework**** >> >> Keith Hudson, Saltford, England http://allisstatus.wordpress.com/2011/08/ >> **** >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Futurework mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Futurework mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework > > -- Sandwichman
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