Earlier I read Keith’s response and was struck by his mood which concerned me.  
 

 

Now I will discuss the article and Keith’s comments about retribution.   I 
don’t find Taibbi’s response to be retributive at all.   What is extreme about. 

1.       breaking up monopolies in a capitalist system that claims monopolies 
to be regressive, 

2.        What is wrong with making them pay for their own insurance on their 
gambling. 

3.        Are you saying that public money should be available for lobbying the 
government?  

4.        Are you saying that risky practices that effect the health of the 
entire nation should not be taxed to protect us in the event of their collapse? 
.  

5.       Do you agree with the current bonus payments where people rewarded for 
screwing everyone else but never kissing them even once?    

 If we were talking about the Taliban advocating what Wall Street bankers say 
about the right to ravage America for their shareholders and steal for their 
management’s salaries [as the CEO’s salaries which went up almost one quarter 
last year] wouldn’t America would be jumping on the stump to talk about the 
heathen retrograde Muslim fanatics taking advantage of the rest of the world 
and especially poor and middle class Americans?   

 

But because they are our thieves we tolerate them.   

 

Don’t tell me they aren’t thieves.   

 

Don’t tell me they aren’t racist either.   

 

We are in a Cold Civil War over here.    

 

They are tearing down our magnificent educational Institutions and returning 
the money for them as block grants to the states where the corrupt locals will 
further feather their pockets.   There would have been no civil rights in this 
country if the states would have had their way.    I got this plea from the 
Organization of American Historians today: 

 

URGENT ACTION IS NEEDED BY 2PM ET *TODAY* TO PRESERVE HISTORY EDUCATION 
FUNDING! 

 

October 14, 2011

 

Dear Ray Harrell,

 

We apologize for the short notice, however we have just learned from the 
National Coalition for History (NCH) that the Senate Health, Education, Labor, 
and Pensions Committee (HELP) released the draft of a bill reauthorizing the 
Elementary and Secondary Education Act (ESEA), also known as No Child Left 
Behind. Sen. Tom Harkin, (D-IA), the committee chairman, and Sen. Michael Enzi 
(R-WY), the ranking Republican, have been engaged in negotiations since early 
this year in crafting the bill.

 

The comprehensive legislation decentralizes educational funding from Washington 
to the states. States would be given block grants that in turn would be 
allocated to local school districts through competitive grants. History 
education will have to compete at the local level for scarce resources.

 

This bill does not include the concept of a “Well-Rounded Education” 
offered in the White House’s original ESEA plan, which would have included 
competitive grants for history, civics, social studies, foreign languages, and 
arts education.

 

We learned very late yesterday that a small window of opportunity has opened to 
address this oversight. In the past, Senator Harkin has strongly supported 
funding for history education and Teaching American History grants. If he hears 
from the historical community immediately there is a chance that some version 
of “Well-Rounded Education” funding that includes history might be included 
in the bill.

 

The ESEA draft bill is scheduled to be considered by the Senate HELP committee 
on Oct. 18. Senator Harkin is planning to file a “Manager’s Amendment” to 
the bill to address concerns that have been identified since the draft was 
released earlier this week. Under committee rules amendments must be filed by 
2:30 p.m. EDT TODAY (Friday, October 14) in advance of the markup next week.

 

We need you to act NOW! Please call Senators Harkin and Enzi as they are the 
key players. A sample script and more information may be found on the NCH Web 
site:

 

http://historycoalition.org/2011/10/14/urgent-action-needed-today-to-preserve-history-education-funding/

 

A list of Senate HELP Committee members is also listed on the Web site as well. 
If you are constituents of any of these Senators, please contact them. You 
should ask for the staff person that handles education issues. Leave a voice 
mail if you cannot reach the person immediately.

 

Remember, PLEASE CALL, not e-mail, the Senators no later than 2:00 p.m. (EDT) 
TODAY. All Senator’s offices can be reached via the U.S. Capitol switchboard 
at 202-224-3121.

 

We apologize for making such a last-minute appeal, and we thank you for your 
support!

 

 

If an enlightened Federal Government hadn’t acted we wouldn’t have stopped 
organized crime.   We would have no civil rights for minorities and we would 
have crap for research from the private sector and no educational standards.    
No state would have done anything.   America’s states are pre-pubescent 
entities that are as provincial as hell.     Rick Perry is the norm.     We 
either get hicks or sleaze.      Only the federal government keeps these 
alleged “states” from collapsing in the world.     These “States” condone the 
richest people in America stealing Indian oil from poverty stricken Indian 
children as “wealth producing” and pass laws that say that the only ones who 
should have the right to vote are the “wealth producers.”     When the Indian 
people were rich they murdered them and made white folks their “guardians” and, 
like the Koch Brothers, they stole them into the poor house. 

 

Taibbi’s suggestion make immanent sense to me.    Just retribution would be 
vendetta but America would never understand the responsibility of a Corsican 
Serf named Mateo Falcone as written by Merimee.    There is little honor abroad 
in the world these days.   Just piracy.    So I ask the same questions I asked 
of the list and got no response to four day ago:    

 

How involved were the corporatists with 1930s Germany and Spain under the 
Fascists and Nazis?   I have a book that indicates that Hitler was close with 
Henry Ford.   I also have heard the term Neo-Corporate in reference to Fascist 
in Italy and Spain.   

 

1.       Does anyone on the list have any information on how this all fitted 
together?

2.       Does anyone on the list know if there are parallels in the private 
sector today?

 

 

It smells like the world I was born into on Dec 3rd, 1941 as all hell broke 
loose.

 

 

REH

 

From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Keith Hudson
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 11:27 AM
To: RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION
Subject: Re: [Futurework] From Rolling Stone

 

At 13:27 14/10/2011, Ed wrote:



Great ideas, but what are the chances of any of them being implemented?  Not 
very good, I'd say.


I agree. Besides, a lot of this is just retribution. A few dollops of 
retribution is no bad thing and I wouldn't mind seeing more than a few bankers 
and city traders in the stocks or breaking rocks but Matt Taibbi's suggestions 
don't really answer to the really serious underlying trends. One is that most 
advanced (money-printing) governments and their (excessive credit-making) 
sidekicks, the banks, are now deeply in debt and there's little prospect of any 
recovery from this unless there's superabundant economic growth (based on 
what?), or taxation over many years or high inflation. Another is that we're 
now moving into a far more specialized world than ever before with a consequent 
yawning skills gap between the value-adders and the rest. Also, because of 
automation we're moving into an economy which simply doesn't need so many adult 
workers. Yet another is that we're all becoming largely locked into a dense 
urban way of life with a standard repertoire of consumer goods. In short, the 
last 300 years of the industrial revolution has now come to an end and an 
altogether new type of society and government has to emerge.

Keith
 



 


My Advice to the Occupy Wall Street Protesters










Hit bankers where it hurts










by: Matt Taibbi






 

Protesters with the 'Occupy Wall Street' movement demonstrate in New York.

Spencer Platt/Getty Images

I've been down to "Occupy Wall Street" twice now, and I love it. The protests 
building at Liberty Square and spreading over Lower Manhattan are a great 
thing, the logical answer to the Tea Party and a long-overdue middle finger to 
the financial elite. The protesters picked the right target and, through their 
refusal to disband after just one day, the right tactic, showing the public at 
large that the movement against Wall Street has stamina, resolve and growing 
popular appeal.

But... there's a but. And for me this is a deeply personal thing, because this 
issue of how to combat Wall Street corruption has consumed my life for years 
now, and it's hard for me not to see where Occupy Wall Street could be better 
and more dangerous. I'm guessing, for instance, that the banks were secretly 
thrilled in the early going of the protests, sure they'd won round one of the 
messaging war.

Why? Because after a decade of unparalleled thievery and corruption, with tens 
of millions entering the ranks of the hungry thanks to artificially inflated 
commodity prices, and millions more displaced from their homes by corruption in 
the mortgage markets, the headline from the first week of protests against the 
financial-services sector was an old cop macing a quartet of college girls.

That, to me, speaks volumes about the primary challenge of opposing the 
50-headed hydra of Wall Street corruption, which is that it's extremely 
difficult to explain the crimes of the modern financial elite in a simple 
visual. The essence of this particular sort of oligarchic power is its 
complexity and day-to-day invisibility: Its worst crimes, from bribery and 
insider trading and market manipulation, to backroom dominance of government 
and the usurping of the regulatory structure from within, simply can't be seen 
by the public or put on TV. There just isn't going to be an iconic "Running 
Girl" photo with Goldman Sachs, Citigroup or Bank of America – just 62 million 
Americans with zero or negative net worth, scratching their heads and wondering 
where the hell all their money went and why their votes seem to count less and 
less each and every year.

No matter what, I'll be supporting Occupy Wall Street. And I think the 
movement's basic strategy – to build numbers and stay in the fight, rather than 
tying itself to any particular set of principles – makes a lot of sense early 
on. But the time is rapidly approaching when the movement is going to have to 
offer concrete solutions to the problems posed by Wall Street. To do that, it 
will need a short but powerful list of demands. There are thousands one could 
make, but I'd suggest focusing on five:

1. Break up the monopolies. The so-called "Too Big to Fail" financial companies 
– now sometimes called by the more accurate term "Systemically Dangerous 
Institutions" – are a direct threat to national security. They are above the 
law and above market consequence, making them more dangerous and unaccountable 
than a thousand mafias combined. There are about 20 such firms in America, and 
they need to be dismantled; a good start would be to repeal the 
Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act and mandate the separation of insurance companies, 
investment banks and commercial banks.

2. Pay for your own bailouts. A tax of 0.1 percent on all trades of stocks and 
bonds and a 0.01 percent tax on all trades of derivatives would generate enough 
revenue to pay us back for the bailouts, and still have plenty left over to 
fight the deficits the banks claim to be so worried about. It would also deter 
the endless chase for instant profits through computerized insider-trading 
schemes like High Frequency Trading, and force Wall Street to go back to the 
job it's supposed to be doing, i.e., making sober investments in job-creating 
businesses and watching them grow.

3. No public money for private lobbying. A company that receives a public 
bailout should not be allowed to use the taxpayer's own money to lobby against 
him. You can either suck on the public teat or influence the next presidential 
race, but you can't do both. Butt out for once and let the people choose the 
next president and Congress.

4. Tax hedge-fund gamblers. For starters, we need an immediate repeal of the 
preposterous and indefensible carried-interest tax break, which allows 
hedge-fund titans like Stevie Cohen and John Paulson to pay taxes of only 15 
percent on their billions in gambling income, while ordinary Americans pay 
twice that for teaching kids and putting out fires. I defy any politician to 
stand up and defend that loophole during an election year.

5. Change the way bankers get paid. We need new laws preventing Wall Street 
executives from getting bonuses upfront for deals that might blow up in all of 
our faces later. It should be: You make a deal today, you get company stock you 
can redeem two or three years from now. That forces everyone to be invested in 
his own company's long-term health – no more Joe Cassanos pocketing 
multimillion-dollar bonuses for destroying the AIGs of the world.

To quote the immortal political philosopher Matt Damon from Rounders, "The key 
to No Limit poker is to put a man to a decision for all his chips." The only 
reason the Lloyd Blankfeins and Jamie Dimons of the world survive is that 
they're never forced, by the media or anyone else, to put all their cards on 
the table. If Occupy Wall Street can do that – if it can speak to the millions 
of people the banks have driven into foreclosure and joblessness – it has a 
chance to build a massive grassroots movement. All it has to do is light a 
match in the right place, and the overwhelming public support for real reform – 
not later, but right now – will be there in an instant.

This story is from the October 27, 2011 issue of Rolling Stone.
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