Sure, I see that it's a gov't decision. And it's begun here in Canada, too. It's just interesting to note that the pseudo-religious followers of Jesus, who are also elected city counselors, don't protest these mean-spirited and insentient moves. Even the church is mostly silent, though this impedes some of their programs. Or is it also rather convenient?

But it's really about businesses and residents growing tired of the reflection of poverty, drugs and panhandling. It's bad for tourism. Gov't would not be sued for unrelated groups feeding street people. Can you cite any such successful case? I'm not saying that street people haven't the right to sue, and well they should in the event of deliberate negligence causing prolonged illness or death. The odds of any such case making it to court, just on the basis of the mental health of most street people alone, are extreme. Pro-bono work on the part of a lawyer would probably be a waste of time in proving actual cause of illness, let alone intent to cause harm. If an indigent takes ill and dies, the reason will typically be noted as that of drugs or alcohol wearing down their system over time. If gov't is sponsoring a program, they /should /secure the source of the food and water--though I would argue that gov't approved food is often laced with toxins; due dates mean nothing in the case of bad meat, fish or cheese, and gov't purchases will be as close to or beyond expiry date as food bank donations are.

This is an effort to move street people out of the way, and starve them in the countless cases in which those with the most acute mental health issues will not set foot inside a gov't facility, let alone any building that smells of authority.

Here in BC we have long had restaurant rules that require end of day tossing out of un-purchased food. Pre-packaged sandwiches are chucked by the thousands daily, made fresh that day, (unlike gov't approved vending machine fare that supposedly keeps for weeks), rather than going to a food bank that would welcome them with open arms--even though the gov't may say they shouldn't. This is first hand experience from when I did an investigation locally. The volunteers understand the difference between slightly stale and crap. And they see, in person, what difference a sandwich can make to a cold, starving person. Without these volunteers, gov't will be paying for salaried workers, retail grocery bills, augmented medical, and chronic policing. The argument between feel good and cost effective is the longest running stall tactic going. The proven most cost-efficient program is that of providing permanent shelter, food, clothing, medical, and education.

Bloomberg doesn't care about any but short-term costs, unfortunately, preferring to nurture white collar parasites at Goldman Sachs, give them in-person comfort in a time of bad publicity. Why would he ever be concerned about a law suit from a street person?

*Natalia*

On 27/03/2012 6:27 PM, Ray Harrell wrote:

I think you got this wrong Natalia. This is not the religious right wing although it is probably businessmen like Bloomberg in New York. The issue is probably liability and they don't want to bother. It may even be cheaper to buy the food than to police rotten food being donated. People can yell at bureaucrats but if your homeless and your child dies from dysentery from donated food, they are still dead. The problem here is which is cost effective and which is just feel good. NYCity sent the "feel gooders" who came to donate time after 9/11 home. The reason became apparent when so many professionals doing the work still came down with exotic cancers etc. I have mixed feeling about Bloomberg but Romney scares me to death.

REH

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I've noticed that the saying "what would Jesus do?" has fallen out of favour with the religious right--I guess because it's terribly inconvenient and often inadvertently reveals them in a bad light. Bad government policy outcomes seem to manifest inconveniently through indigents, therefore dispersing them or starving them out is now the trend. Corporations need a seemingly prosperous place to conduct trade. If only the Tea Party could see this infringement on individuals' rights as another reason to dissolve government, rather than an essential punitive measure!

*Natalia*



http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/feeding-the-homeless-banned-in-major-cities-all-over-america


  Feeding The Homeless BANNED In

Major Cities All Over America

What would you do if you came across someone on the street that had not had anything to eat for several days? Would you give that person some food? Well, the next time you get that impulse you might want to check if it is still legal to feed the homeless where you live. Sadly, feeding the homeless has been banned in major cities all over America. Other cities that have not banned it outright have put so many requirements on those that want to feed the homeless (acquiring expensive permits, taking food preparation courses, etc.) that feeding the homeless has become "out of reach" for most average people. Some cities are doing these things because they are concerned about the "health risks" of the food being distributed by ordinary "do-gooders". Other cities are passing these laws because they do not want homeless people congregating in city centers where they know that they will be fed. But at a time when poverty and government dependence are soaring to unprecedented levels <http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/the-u-s-economy-soul-crushing-total-system-failure>, is it really a good idea to ban people from helping those that are hurting?

This is just another example that shows that our country is being taken over by control freaks. There seems to be this idea out there that it is the job of the government to take care of everyone and that nobody else should even try.

But do we really want to have a nation where you have to get the permission of the government before you do good to your fellow man?

It isn't as if the government has "rescued" these homeless people. Homeless shelters all over the nation are turning people away each night because they have no more room. There are many homeless people that are lucky just to make it through each night alive during the winter.

Sometimes a well-timed sandwich or a cup of warm soup can make a world of difference for a homeless person. But many U.S. cities have decided that feeding the homeless is such a threat that they had better devote law enforcement resources to making sure that it doesn't happen.

This is so twisted. In America today, you need a "permit" to do almost anything. We are supposed to be a land of liberty and freedom, but these days government bureaucrats have turned our rights into "privileges" that they can revoke at any time.

The following are some of the major U.S. cities that have attempted to ban feeding the homeless....

*Philadelphia*

Mayor Nutter recently banned feeding homeless people in many parts of Philadelphia where homeless people are known to congregate <http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2012/03/14/nutter-announces-ban-on-outdoor-feeding-of-homeless/>....

    /Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter has announced a ban on the
    feeding of large numbers of homeless and hungry people at sites on
    and near the Benjamin Franklin Parkway./

    /Mayor Nutter is imposing the ban on all outdoor feedings of large
    numbers of people on city parkland, including Love Park and the
    Ben Franklin Parkway, where it is not uncommon for outreach groups
    to offer free food./

    /Nutter says the feedings lack both sanitary conditions and dignity./

*Orlando*

Last June, a group of activists down in Orlando, Florida were arrested by police for feeding the homeless in defiance of a city ordinance <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/10/orlando-food-not-bombs-arrests_n_874840.html>....

    /Over the past week, twelve members of food activist group Food
    Not Bombs have been arrested in Orlando for giving free food to
    groups of homeless people in a downtown park. They were acting in
    defiance of a controversial city ordinance that mandates permits
    for groups distributing food to large groups in parks within two
    miles of City Hall. Each group is allowed only two permits per
    park per year; Food Not Bombs has already exceeded their limit.
    They set up their meatless buffet in Lake Eola knowing that they
    would likely be arrested as a result./

*Houston*

Down in Houston, a group of Christians was recently banned from distributing food to the homeless, and they were told that they probably would not be granted a permit to do so in the future even if they applied for one <http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Houston-permit-rule-stops-couple-s-effort-to-feed-1611603.php>....

    /Bobby and Amanda Herring spent more than a year providing food to
    homeless people in downtown Houston every day. They fed them, left
    behind no trash and doled out warm meals peacefully without a
    single crime being committed, Bobby Herring said./

    /That ended two weeks ago when the city shut down their "Feed a
    Friend" effort for lack of a permit. And city officials say the
    couple most likely will not be able to obtain one./

    /"We don't really know what they want, we just think that they
    don't want us down there feeding people," said Bobby Herring, a
    Christian rapper who goes by the stage name Tre9./

*Dallas*

Dallas has also adopted a law which greatly restricts the ability of individuals and ministries to feed the homeless <http://blog.chron.com/believeitornot/2011/11/homeless-ministry-says-dallas-food-ordinance-restricts-their-religious-freedom/>....

    /A Dallas-area ministry is suing the city over a food ordinance
    that restricts the group from giving meals to the homeless./

    /Courts dismissed Dallas' request for a summary judgment last
    week, saying the case, brought up by pastor Don Hart (in video
    above) may indeed be a violation of free exercise of religion, as
    protected by the Texas Religious Freedom Restoration Act, the blog
    Religion Clause reported./

    /In the court filing, the ministry leaders argue that their
    Christian faith requires them to share meals with the homeless
    (Jesus did!) and that the requirement that even churches and
    charities provide toilets, sinks, trained staff and consent of the
    city keeps them from doing so./

*Las Vegas*

A few years ago, Las Vegas became the first major U.S. city to specifically pass a law banning the feeding of homeless people <http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/28/us/28homeless.html?pagewanted=all>....

    /Las Vegas, whose homeless population has doubled in the past
    decade to about 12,000 people in and around the city, joins
    several other cities across the country that have adopted or
    considered ordinances limiting the distribution of charitable
    meals in parks. Most have restricted the time and place of such
    handouts, hoping to discourage homeless people from congregating
    and, in the view of officials, ruining efforts to beautify
    downtowns and neighborhoods./

    /But the Las Vegas ordinance is believed to be the first to
    explicitly make it an offense to feed "the indigent."/

That law has since been blocked by a federal judge <http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-03-26-homeless-laws_N.htm>, and since then many U.S. cities have been very careful not to mention "the indigent" or "the homeless" by name in the laws they pass that are intended to ban feeding the homeless.

*New York City*

New York City has banned all food donations to government-run homeless shelters because the bureaucrats there are concerned that the donated food will not be "nutritious" enough.

Yes, this is really true.

The following is from a recent Fox News article <http://nation.foxnews.com/michael-bloomberg/2012/03/19/nanny-bloomberg-bans-food-donations-homeless-shelters-too-salty>....

    /The Bloomberg administration is now taking the term "food police"
    to new depths, blocking food donations to all government-run
    facilities that serve the city's homeless./

    /In conjunction with a mayoral task force and the Health
    Department, the Department of Homeless Services recently started
    enforcing new nutritional rules for food served at city shelters.
    Since DHS can't assess the nutritional content of donated food,
    shelters have to turn away good Samaritans./

Can you believe that?

The bureaucrats are officially out of control.

In America today, it seems like almost everything is illegal <http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/19-signs-that-america-has-become-a-crazy-control-freak-nation-where-almost-everything-is-illegal>.

One church down in Louisiana was recently ordered to stop giving out water <http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/church-ordered-to-stop-giving-away-free-water.html> because it did not have a government permit.

Well, I don't know about you, but I sure am going to give a cup of cold water to someone if they need it whether I have a permit or not.

It is as if common sense has totally gone out the window in this nation.

Over in New Hampshire, a woman is being sued <http://boston.cbslocal.com/2012/03/19/nh-woman-sued-for-planting-flowers-in-her-front-yard/> for planting flowers in her own front yard.

This is the kind of thing that makes me glad that I have moved to a much more rural location. People in the country tend to be much more relaxed.

Sadly, those that love to micro-manage others continue to get the upper hand in America. Back in January, 40,000 new laws <http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45819570/ns/us_news-life/t/new-laws-toughen-rules-abortions-immigrants-voters/#.T01odvVXk3w> went into effect all over America. The politicians continue to hit us with wave after wave of regulations and laws with no end in sight.

All of this is making America a very unpleasant place in which to live.



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