Unfortunately the times are different in one respect. Now not only does one need to fight against the corporate structure, there is no longer the vast wild expanse to rape that can keep the population employed. As the steel workers advocate the continued destruction of the environment (for the continued short-term employment of foresters and other workers in that industry), they have no foresight for the future of an industry headed for complete annihilation; 1) if they maintain the current idea of strip forestry (clear cutting) i.e corporate control, 2)the climate continues to change and the diseases and pests continue to wreak havoc on the very wood wanted for industry. The system must change. Industry must be removed from the picture, but it does not seem the union bosses are in this fight for the members as much as for the corporate employers. Small business with smaller (personal) lots must be begun for the proper continuation of the forest product industry as a whole. This would also allow for the environment to begin a slow movement back to a stable position from which it can then /possibly/ fight the environmental changes that are occurring. This also brings up the point of how to structure the smaller businesses and the checks and balances to protect the environment from the smaller aspects of personal greed.

In BC this would then be dollars in the pockets of back-country tourism for the sights, sounds and smells and for fishing and in some areas hunting. But none of this is "corporate venture material" so the present government will not back any such changes, no matter how convincing the arguments and the NDP is in the same boat as the the Lib's and Con's. Not only those parties but the Green Party is attempting to sidle up to corporate dominion and so has lost a chance to rally the lower classes and the middle class (as entrepreneurs) to any stable future for the citizenry.

Perhaps this is part of what Ray has so often spoken of: the 7 generations of spiritual repair for the oppressed. An oppressed population will not feel they can take charge of their own lives and will all too often fall into the trap of employment at subsistence levels. Working to the point of exhaustion so the only outcome is an animal that works to eat and has no energy or time to learn.

The NDP and the Green Party have a chance to coalesce for the benefit of the 99% (or at least for the 55% near the bottom) which would be enough to gain control of the government. /*But*/ who has the personal funds for a election campaign without the (pay back or suffer the consequences) contributions from the corporate sector. Viral dollars through the internet (as in Germany) will be shut down here very soon which is one reason why internet control is so-o-o important to corporate America and its lap-dog Canada.

Infiltration of corporate greed into the political parties is all too common and is very difficult to see let alone expose. Is Bob Ray really a Liberal or is he that provincial NDP that ripped apart the Ministries in Ontario? Or was he (at the time) simply a "for private industry Liberal" in NDP guise?

Is there any reason why I should not believe all politicians are liars and can never be trusted?

Darryl


On 06/05/2012 12:07 PM, michael gurstein wrote:
Arguably it was a broader coalition including notably intellectuals around the League for Social Reconstruction.
M
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Co-operative_Commonwealth_Federation
The *Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (CCF)* (French: /Fédération du Commonwealth Coopératif/, then in 1955 rebranded in French as /Parti social démocratique du Canada/) was a Canadian <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada> political party founded in 1932 in Calgary, Alberta <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calgary,_Alberta>, by a number of socialist <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism>, farm <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agrarian>, co-operative <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Co-operative> and labour <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_movement> groups, and the League for Social Reconstruction <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_for_Social_Reconstruction>. In 1944, it became the first socialist government in North America (based in Saskatchewan <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saskatchewan>). In 1961, it disbanded and was replaced by the New Democratic Party <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Democratic_Party>. The full, but little used, name of the party was *Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (Farmer-Labour-Socialist)*.

    -----Original Message-----
    *From:* [email protected]
    [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ed Weick
    *Sent:* Sunday, May 06, 2012 11:56 AM
    *To:* RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION,EDUCATION
    *Subject:* Re: [Futurework] NDP loses touch with its roots

    This exchange has me thinking about the NDP's roots.  What were
    they really?  Was it farm or factory?  When I was a kid in
    Saskatchewan in the 1930s, it was definitely farm.  Just as
    factory workers were trying to form unions, farmers were trying to
    form co-ops to give them a better chance in dealing with powerful
    corporate grain buyers.  And religion played a strong role in what
    was happening.  Tommy Douglas was a Baptist Minister; J.S.
    Woodsworth a Minister as well (Presbyterian, I think).
    Ed

        ----- Original Message -----
        *From:* Tom Walker <mailto:[email protected]>
        *To:* RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION,EDUCATION
        <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Sent:* Sunday, May 06, 2012 1:02 AM
        *Subject:* Re: [Futurework] NDP loses touch with its roots

        Perhaps. But there is also the matter of the stereotype of
        "working class" that the actual working class have also
        "strayed from." I too listen to and read diverse voices but
        when those "voices" are mouthpieces, I feel no compulsion to
        affect false reverence. Levant should stick to barking for a
        carnival sideshow.

        On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Arthur Cordell
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            Perhaps the NDP has strayed from its working class roots.

            Arthur

            *From:*[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>
            [mailto:[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf
            Of *Tom Walker
            *Sent:* Saturday, May 05, 2012 3:56 PM
            *To:* RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION
            *Cc:* [email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>
            *Subject:* Re: [Futurework] NDP loses touch with its roots

            Ezra Levant will never lose touch with his rooting for
            Exxon-Mobil truffles.

            On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Arthur Cordell
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


              NDP loses touch with its roots

            Read Later
            <http://www.readability.com/articles/bnefc1sb?legacy_bookmarklet=1>
            /by/ Ezra Levant  .  May 6, 2012


            
<http://www.torontosun.com/2012/05/04/ndp-loses-touch-with-its-roots>


                Canada's Oil: For Sale to the Highest Bidder
                
<http://www.progressive-economics.ca/2012/05/05/canadas-oil-for-sale-to-the-highest-bidder/>

            from The Progressive Economics Forum
            
<http://www.google.ca/reader/view/feed/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.progressive-economics.ca%2Ffeed%2F>
            by Jim Stanford

            Want to know why Canada's currency is sky-high despite our
            sluggish recovery, our large and persistent current
            account deficit, and our lousy export performance?

            Check out this fascinating story
            
<http://business.financialpost.com/2012/05/03/oil-explorers-face-new-challenges/>
            in Friday's National Post, by Yadullah Hussain, on why
            Canada's oil reserves are such a uniquely hot commodity in
            the eyes of global oil corporations.

            The story explains how private petroleum giants (like
            Exxon-Mobil) are having a hard time replacing the reserves
            they produce.  Over 80 percent of known oil reserves in
            the world are controlled by state-owned companies.  Most
            major oil producing countries (sensibly, in my view) have
            decided that management and ownership of this strategic,
            non-renewable resource should be conducted through
            government enterprise, presumably in the interests of the
            citizens who --- after all --- own the stuff in the first
            place.  [Of course, democracy is a pre-requisite for
            ensuring that public ownership translates into public
            benefit.]

            That means less than 20 percent of known oil reserves are
available for exploitation by private companies. Incredibly, well over half of those privately exploitable
            reserves are in Canada.  Without Canada, private firms
            like Exxon can tap into only 7 percent of known world
            reserves.

            There is a striking chart that accompanied the print
            version of the story (but which I can't find in the
            on-line version) that listed the countries with the ten
            largest oil reserves.  Canada was the /only one/ of those
            ten where the oil industry is not dominated by state-owned
            firms.  (Canada doesn't even have a state-owned oil company.)

            The article cited Reynold Tetzlaff, energy expert with
            Price Waterhouse Coopers, as follows: "If you look at the
            top ... countries ... for oil reserves, Canada is the only
            one that does not have a national oil company. We are the
            only one open for business."

            Given sky-high oil prices and oil profits, and the
            relentless decline of their existing reserves, the global
            petroleum industry has their sights set firmly on Canada
            as a key solution to their long-run reserves replacement
            problem.  Indeed, even /foreign/ state-owned companies
            (from Norway's Statoil to China's CNPC) are getting in on
            Alberta's bitumen action in a big way.  It
            seems especially ironic that foreign public corporations
            see value in investing in Canadian oil, yet Canadians
            presently have no public capacity to do the same thing.

            "These large companies need to continue to look for
            replacement reserves," Mr. Tetzlaff added.  In other
            words, Canada will be the hottest target for private oil
            investment for decades to come.

            All that drooling on the part of global petroleum
            companies over Canada's oil (which is uniquely accessible
            to private capital) is the key structural reason why our
            currency has so closely tracked the price of oil over the
            past decade.  Our petroleum exports are important, but
            still constitute just 18% of total exports (including
            natural gas).  It is not that the world wants more of what
            Canada produces: if that was true, Canada would not have
            the enormous trade and current account deficits that we
            now experience (despite the unsustainable windfall of
            petroleum exports).  Rather, it's that global companies
hunger for the right to own what's buried under our feet. This is reflected in high valuations for Canadian assets
            (especially anything related to petroleum), and (to a
            lesser extent) in strong inflows of real foreign
            investment as our oil resources are steadily sold off to
            the highest bidder.  This asset market effect, driving our
            currency far above its fair or sustainable value, is
            underming our national capacity to produce and sell real
            stuff to the rest of the world.

            As I have argued before, a good way to break this
            damaging link between oil prices and our currency (the 25%
            overvaluation of which which continues to devastate all
            non-resource export industries, including manufacturing,
            tourism, and tradable services) is to take down the "For
            Sale" sign currently hanging on our oil reserves.

            Following the lead of the vast majority of other global
            oil exporters, control over the pace and nature of
            development should be taken back into the hands of
            Canadians.  The non-renewable wealth embodied in those
            reserves should be owned and controlled by Canadians,
            developed in a manner consistent with the public interest
            --- taking into account factors (like environmental
            sustainability, and spillover Dutch-disease effects on the
            rest of the national economy) that do not enter the
            cost-benefit calculations of the private giants hungering
            for Canadian oil.




-- Cheers,

            Tom Walker (Sandwichman)


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