At 02:04 17/08/2012, you wrote:
A bit tax is an indirect tax, like the gasoline tax, and collecting it doesn't increase govt debt.

arthur

It doesn't matter that it's an indirect tax, it still adds onto the total tax that a government is able to tax without cramping the wealth producing part of the economy. A bit tax would have the same effect as Gordon Brown's "stealth" taxes (during the last 8 years of the 12-year Labour government). His taxes were well-nigh invisible and apparently of little consequence but they added up to higher government debt at the end of his term than before it.

Keith


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Subject: [Futurework] Arthur's 5th belief

At 21:17 15/08/2012, Arthur wrote:

        5. That money will be found (from a bit tax, a tobin tax, some other
form of turnover indirect tax) to provide a basic income, or to provide
spending for some other type of workfare activivities in the third sector.

A consensus of the evidence from all existing advanced Western nation-states (particularly from high-welfare Nordic countries) is that total government taxation of around 40/45% of GDP is as much as governments can manage without stumbling into deep debt. Some countries are beyond any possibility of redeeming that debt already (e.g. Japan, Greece, Hungary, Ukraine) and others are now reaching the very edge of possible redemption by means of austerity for many years (e.g. Spain, Portugal, UK, Italy, US). All others are at various stages in between with only a few governments (e.g. Finland, Germany) with a chance of reducing their debts. Even the latter might not be able to afford basic incomes or workfare schemes.

Keith


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