Ain't loyalty, patriotism and loving one's neighbor wonderful! All of these middle eastern citizens of the "big three faiths" make the specious claim today to pay all of the taxes when they all claim Jesus as a model whether Messiah, Prophet or just member. Jesus told the wealthy banker that he didn't pay as much as the widow who gave two pennies because it was relative. Whether the Faux Indian Romney or the Faux Abanacki Tea Party, they still ignore the economics of Jesus as well as the concept of economic power through giving of the real Indians. But Jesus wasn't the only one to speak this way. Isaiah spoke of a house of prayer for all people's and Elijah let the priest of Baal know what he thought of people who abandoned their principles for convenient purposes.
Do the current protagonists believe we can't read their books? It reminds of that famous story of Haudenosaunee Chief Red Jacket who could read and was given a bible by a Christian Minister and a sermon to convert Red Jacket's people. Red Jacket politely listened and then told the minister he was impressed with his book and his Savior. He also told him that what mattered was what kind of people the book created by believing in it. What kind of students they were of their Master. What kind of manual for behavior it was for it's own people. Red Jacket said they would wait awhile and see how the Christian population got along with and treated the Indian population. Red Jacket stuck out his hand to shake in agreement and the minister called him a devil and walked out knowing that he was going to have to eradicate them to get what he wanted. Now I hear these killer assumptions coming from these economic " moral" systems and they make me want throw up. How is it that I'm more loyal to this list than any of these current "captains of finance" are to their nation or the nation that took them in. If they have a tradition with their faith and nationality they seem to ignore it's principles. They give up the classic culture and ideals of their ancestors in favor of junk and refuse to dance and sing with the quality of their traditions. To compare the robber barons of the late 19th century, and men like J. P. Morgan, who saved the nation twice, to today's venal products of simple self interest, is both historically specious and simple minded. One could say that the banks once saved the American treasury while today they believe that they should be free to do anything and have the American treasury save them. Why are they too big to fail but the American people are not? The Robber Barons used their money bluntly and in a warlike fashion but they "used" it. J.P. Moran had less than a million dollars on his death because he worked in the system and used his capital. The same with Andrew Carnegie and Henry Higginson who founded the capital traditions that Bill and Melinda Gates now follows. They were not "nice" people but they did believe in significance and leaving an American legacy for all Americans as do the Gates and their Foundation. Most of all they believed and believe in America and American culture. The life of J.P. Morgan is not simpatico with Alice Rosenbaum. Rosenbaum's Roark could only make it in Architecture since it has to be well funded before it can even begin. But Higginson founded the Boston Symphony and funded huge parts of the American University system. Carnegie did everything as did the Pulitzers. The distance between today's wealthy and the poverty has to do with the wealthy abandoning their responsibilities in favor of simple hoarding. REH From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Arthur Cordell Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 10:07 AM To: 'Keith Hudson'; 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION'; 'D & N' Subject: Re: [Futurework] Arthur's 5th belief Offshore banking starves governments of revenues that otherwise go unreported. It was odd but in my glimpse of Cayman customs I saw that some North Americans have a Cayman account and based on the interest or other earnings on the account are able to go on holiday in the Caymans drawing on their Cayman account. Thus they are able to "spend" that money without having to bring it back to their home country. To the extent that offshore banking grows then government revenues are not as high as they otherwise might be. Arthur From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Keith Hudson Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 12:54 AM To: RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION; D & N Subject: Re: [Futurework] Arthur's 5th belief At 22:53 17/08/2012, Natalia wrote: snip---> The New York Times reports there's more money in the banks of the Cayman Islands than in all the banks of New York City combined. What's it all doing there? Avoiding taxes for one. But perhaps even more seriously, offshore banking starves the world's economy of cash at a time when it could really use a few extra bucks. (KH) There's hardly any money in its true sense (a consumer commodity) in the Cayman Islands at all. There are only electronic representations, of which every last digit has a physical counterpart sitting on the ground somewhere in the world or flying in the air or floating on the sea. Every last square inch of these items that are visible to the public (and owe their value to the public) is taxable. Offshore banking itself doesn't starve anybody. What starves us are onshore banks which are given special privileges by governments and which ought, when necessary, to be forced into bankrupt like every other business. Instead, they are propped up by the taxpayer by quantitative easing and other dodgy devices. If they weren't propped up, then every single unproductive, overvalued collateral would quickly find its true market price and productiveness. Keith Keith Hudson, Saltford, England http://allisstatus.wordpress.com <http://allisstatus.wordpress.com/>
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