Someone else must have written what you referred to, since I sent no message
to you or the listserv on July 23, 2000. Essentially I just lurk and listen
to what others have to say. I certainly would not write a baiting subject
line like "SOCIALISTIC THEORIES ARE DEAD!!!" If I wanted to write about
economic theory (Keynesian or neoliberal), I would simply have done so, and
would not have plastered slogans on a widely-read public forum such as this
one.
I hope you are able to find and respond directly to whoever wrote that.
Good luck to you, and best wishes,
Andrew Straw
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Subject: SOCIALISTIC THEORIES ARE DEAD!!!
> SOCIALISTIC THEORIES ARE DEAD!!!
>
> August 3, 2000
>
> Hi Andrew,
>
> You start your July 23, 2000 email to me with: "I think Russia, Cuba,
> North Korea, and China have pretty well proven that socialialist
> theories are extinct" (emphasis added). My remarks focus on this
> statement.
>
> I think it would be helpful if we consider how the word socialism is
> used. The best way to go about this is to give an example. In this
> country, the control over business by government (socialism) took a huge
> leap during FDR's administration. There were no hard core complaints
> about this drastic change, certainly not from the "capitalists." Before
> one week was out in FDR's administration, the government, in essence,
> took over the banks by way of the bank holiday and the Reconstruction
> Finance Corporation. This corporation was owned and exclusively
> controlled by the federal government. This was a big socialist step. No
> "capitalist" complained.
>
> However, it made no difference how much "socialism" was introduced, the
> Great Depression's problems did not lessen. The Great Depression was
> solved by W.W. II. FDR and his "socialism" were a failure.
>
> I lived through these times (I'm 87) and was well aware of these social
> issues. From that time up to today, I have found only one organization,
> Technocracy Inc., a scientific, educational-research, non-profit
> organization, which understands North America's problems.
>
> We live in the only scientific-technological age ever known. Because
> this age is unique, using socialialist theories (your expression) would
> not solve anything now anymore than it did in the 1930s
>
> Science and technology, used in a design that is laid out to be
> compatible with modern times, our scientific-technological age, is the
> only solution.
>
> If one is sincere and wants to understand modern times and if that
> person can divorce him/herself from the cultural hangups that we have
> learned starting in infancy, that person is well advised to study
> Technocracy's concepts. Mind you, the word "study" is well chosen
> because it requires scrutinizing with a critical mind, not blanket
> acceptance.
>
> For such a study, two places are recommended: (1) Log onto
> www.technocracyinc.org and especially read "Man-Hours and Distribution,
> and (2) Log onto www.technocracysf.org and especially read "A Commentary
> to Jim Lehrer.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> John A. Taube
>
>
